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Post subject: So... is Barbara Streisand on a suicide watch yet?
 Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 04:29 PM
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I gotta hand it to President Bush: He didn't win the popular vote in 2000, but he scored an historic and impressive victory two years later in capturing the Senate for the Republican party and preserving his control over the House of Representatives. Not since 1962, in the immediate aftermath of the Cuban Missile Crisis, has an incumbent president done as well in a midterm election!
I have always said, NEVER underestimate President Bush!! |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 05:58 PM
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| I hope not. I like her singing. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 05:58 PM
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| Why hasn't Streisand or Alec Baldwin left the country? They promised! |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 06:24 PM
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| Crambam wrote: | | Why hasn't Streisand or Alec Baldwin left the country? They promised! |
They're cowards, obviously.
John McCain said it best when he started to sing 'Memories' on SNL the other week. "I can sing about as well as you can govern the country." |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 11:44 PM
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You recognize, of course, that this midterm "victory" may in fact be the beginning of the end for Bush. His chances of re-election will in all probability be seriously impacted (negatively, in case that wasn't clear) by all of this. I am gleefully awaiting the presidential election in 2004. I foresee carnage that is well worth 2 years of Republican control.
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 11:53 PM
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| *diane* wrote: | You recognize, of course, that this midterm "victory" may in fact be the beginning of the end for Bush. His chances of re-election will in all probability be seriously impacted (negatively, in case that wasn't clear) by all of this. I am gleefully awaiting the presidential election in 2004. I foresee carnage that is well worth 2 years of Republican control.
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That is the most breathtaking example of rationalization I have ever read...
It isn't this win itself that will impact the 2004 elections; it is what Bush and and the Republicans DO with this win, that will.
We Republicans have to be careful that we don't overreach like we did after 1994. |
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Posted: Nov 06, 2002 - 11:56 PM
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That's not rationalization, but a prediction based on the outcomes of previous elections.
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:20 AM
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| *diane* wrote: | That's not rationalization, but a prediction based on the outcomes of previous elections.
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And previous election outcomes led to the prediction that the party controlling the White House generally loses seats in Congress during mid-term elections.
(Why is that? It's because two years beforehand, the winning presidential candidate tends to sweep in a few relatively weak candidates on his coattails. In other words, the president's party takes a few seats it probably shouldn't, and the midterm defeats return things to normal. But President Bush had no coattails during the 2000 election...)
So much for predictions. |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:34 AM
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2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:42 AM
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| *diane* wrote: | 2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Hell, I'd place a large wager. |
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Post subject: Alec Baldwin at RHODES COLLEGE in Memphis
Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:45 AM
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Why? Because Alec Baldwin has a rendezvous with destiny
He is scheduled to teach drama class at RHODES COLLEGE in Memphis, my alma mater, its namesake was physics mentor to playwright TN Williams and inspiration for GLASS MENAGERIE foreword re space time whatever, and alma mater of McLaurin Smith-Williams (Robin Williams' half brother), Mark Gilley (head of Memphis UFO Discussion Group and relative of Jerry Lee Lewis and Mickey Gilley and McLaurin's college roommate) and rich Memphis dvorcak (Kotter) attorney Lawrence Rice class of 1974, who visited with Robin at Los Angeles INSOMNIA premiere this year.
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PS Clinton's attorney Bruce Lindsay graduated from RHODES COLLEGE in 1970. Truth is stranger than fiction. McCauley Culkin |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:47 AM
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| erifah wrote: | | *diane* wrote: | 2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Hell, I'd place a large wager. |
Money is too gauche. What do you care to wager?
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Post subject: Wager or Leap of Faith
Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:48 AM
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Please read my above mentioned posting for Informational purposes/Entertainment value only
Don't let this turn into Indecent Proposal
Do not go in there PET DETECTIVE |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 12:57 AM
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| *diane* wrote: | | erifah wrote: | | *diane* wrote: | 2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Hell, I'd place a large wager. |
Money is too gauche. What do you care to wager?
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If I win, you have to marry me and bear me many strong sons!
If I lose, I agree to give Ms. Streisand foot massages... |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:00 AM
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I'm getting a bit old for that. How about my Marilyn Manson lunchbox instead?
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:03 AM
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| *diane* wrote: | I'm getting a bit old for that. How about my Marilyn Manson lunchbox instead?
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That would be the perfect thing with which to hand you your lunch in 2004... |
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Post subject: What about me? Punch Drunk Love/LIttleknown Laws Federa
Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:03 AM
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What about ME, people?
He wants me, he needs me, he wants me, he NNNNEEEEDDSS me!
Punch Drunk Love
Talk about a laugh riot, somebody, call the police.
Don't make ugly faces at your dog in Oklahoma. It's against the Law
I hope the FEDERATION never has crazy laws like that
Start a Crazy Laws of the Federation thread |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:08 AM
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| *diane* wrote: | 2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Did you miss Ross Perot? He handed Clinton the presidency on the smallest majority ever in U.S. history winning on a mere 43% of the popular vote while Bush Sr. took 37.7 and Ross took in 19%. I don't understand how that could not be considered a serious third party impact on a presidential election. No third party candidate at that time probably would have meant 4 more years of Bush Sr. I don't think that Nader in 2000 even got a tenth the number of votes that Perot pulled in '92. The 2000 election is far more remarkable on how close the 2 major candidates were than any sort of third party activity as far as the presidential race goes. |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:20 AM
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| tj03a wrote: | | *diane* wrote: | 2000 was an unusual election year. I'm not sure we've had such a serious third party impact on a presidential election since the Bull Moose party.
Would you care to place a small wager on the outcome of the next election?
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Did you miss Ross Perot? He handed Clinton the presidency on the smallest majority ever in U.S. history winning on a mere 43% of the popular vote while Bush Sr. took 37.7 and Ross took in 19%. I don't understand how that could not be considered a serious third party impact on a presidential election. No third party candidate at that time probably would have meant 4 more years of Bush Sr. I don't think that Nader in 2000 even got a tenth the number of votes that Perot pulled in '92. The 2000 election is far more remarkable on how close the 2 major candidates were than any sort of third party activity as far as the presidential race goes. |
Oh, yeah, Perot.
I think I'd managed to relegate him to some dark, dank, unopened cardboard box in the nether regions of my supressed memories. Dang you for sending him to the surface again.
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 01:40 AM
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Oh, yeah, Perot.
I think I'd managed to relegate him to some dark, dank, unopened cardboard box in the nether regions of my supressed memories. Dang you for sending him to the surface again.
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HAHAHAHA, Sorry about that. I still think his would have been the most amusing presidency ever and possibly shortest (in more ways than one). I always imagined him quitting for no realistic reason after a short time but with plenty of charts to prove his quitting was valid.  |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 02:31 AM
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| tj03a wrote: | | *diane* wrote: |
Oh, yeah, Perot.
I think I'd managed to relegate him to some dark, dank, unopened cardboard box in the nether regions of my supressed memories. Dang you for sending him to the surface again.
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HAHAHAHA, Sorry about that. I still think his would have been the most amusing presidency ever and possibly shortest (in more ways than one). I always imagined him quitting for no realistic reason after a short time but with plenty of charts to prove his quitting was valid. |
My poor brother, upon turning eighteen, voted for Perot in '92. I scolded him for years after, and have never quite forgiven him. That's why, every campaign year, I make sure to send him all of the information on all of the candidates that I can so that he can make a *Fox News Chime* fair and balanced *end of chime* decision.  |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 02:34 AM
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 05:13 AM
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| joains wrote: | | I hope not. I like her singing. |
You said it jo! She's got a lot more of that to do........  |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 04:32 PM
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| *diane* wrote: | That's not rationalization, but a prediction based on the outcomes of previous elections.
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No midterm US election in history has ever had an outcome like this. What previous elections are you refering to? care to share the data? |
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Posted: Nov 07, 2002 - 04:55 PM
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| joains wrote: | | *diane* wrote: | That's not rationalization, but a prediction based on the outcomes of previous elections.
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No midterm US election in history has ever had an outcome like this. What previous elections are you refering to? care to share the data? |
Since no president has ever led his party to control of the Senate in his first midterm ? until now - the "popular wisdom" and predictions based on history are irrelevant.
The 2002 vote has to be seen as a vote of confidence in President Bush, and a ratification of his victory in 2000. |
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