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 Posted: Mar 18, 2010 - 12:56 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | | teclaydon wrote: | Big words like 'proselytizing' make my head hurt, so anything that causes them to be used can't be good...
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First, I am NOT going to get in a religious fight here, I agree with Paul,
this is no place for it, you aren't going to convert anyone here.
But I would like to make one point......proselytizing
I remember my "West Wing". they loved that word.
It's called the Great Commission in the Bible, it's also called "witnessing".
Believers are "told" to share their witness with others.
I've always wondered the reasons behind the need to change the word... |
Witnessing doesn't always mean sharing words. It is showing others by the way we live. It is sharing a loaf of bread with someone who doesn't have enough to eat or offering a kind word to someone who is having a bad day. It is the difference between rolling our sleeves up and pitching in to help during a time of crisis (Katrina, 911) without preaching or judging or trying to put blame on victims for their troubles. It's not so much what we say, but what we do. As a wise person once said, "Anyone knows how to behave in church.... it is when you are going about your daily lives that people are watching to see how you behave." |
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Posted: Mar 18, 2010 - 04:03 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | kstahmer wrote: | Church of Chekov
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"I gave up a promising career in space exploration for my addiction to Internet porn and YouTube, and I never looked back."
-- Attributed to Pavel Chekov, Chekov's Kick-Ass Music Videos |
Too much toilet mouth for me. Sorry  |
To each, their own;
Didn't post that link as an endorsement, but merely to show no matter how fanciful, the Internet covers it. |
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Posted: Mar 18, 2010 - 06:06 PM
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| kstahmer wrote: | | SMB wrote: | | kstahmer wrote: | Church of Chekov
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"I gave up a promising career in space exploration for my addiction to Internet porn and YouTube, and I never looked back."
-- Attributed to Pavel Chekov, Chekov's Kick-Ass Music Videos |
Too much toilet mouth for me. Sorry |
To each, their own;
Didn't post that link as an endorsement, but merely to show no matter how fanciful, the Internet covers it. |
I agree.  Which leads me to a great question. I will start a new thread for it though. |
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Posted: Mar 18, 2010 - 06:47 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | | I see it as a synonymous substitution, now I'll shut up |
I never accept a substitute for cinnamon .. never. N |
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Posted: Mar 18, 2010 - 06:49 PM
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| KoriLinae wrote: | REally... trying to READ such high falutin words has given me a headache...
btw... HI!
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The prodigal daughter has returned, and the BBS Gods have
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 05:44 AM
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| Gornman wrote: | | KoriLinae wrote: | REally... trying to READ such high falutin words has given me a headache...
btw... HI!
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The prodigal daughter has returned, and the BBS Gods have
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After many threats.. the Gods finally decided I was a royal pain, and left me to put my avatar back.. HA!
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 03:04 PM
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| KoriLinae wrote: | REally... trying to READ such high falutin words has given me a headache...
btw... HI!
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Welcome back KoriLinae.
And please, don't be concerned about highfalutin words.
For I can tell you without qualification,
There's no sesquipedalian posting in this forum. |
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 05:00 PM
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Praise the lard! |
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 05:02 PM
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Praise the lard! |
Makes good old fashioned soul-cleaning soap too!  |
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 08:15 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | teclaydon wrote: | Big words like 'proselytizing' make my head hurt, so anything that causes them to be used can't be good...
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First, I am NOT going to get in a religious fight here, I agree with Paul,
this is no place for it, you aren't going to convert anyone here.
But I would like to make one point......proselytizing
I remember my "West Wing". they loved that word.
It's called the Great Commission in the Bible, it's also called "witnessing".
Believers are "told" to share their witness with others.
I've always wondered the reasons behind the need to change the word... |
Witnessing doesn't always mean sharing words. It is showing others by the way we live. It is sharing a loaf of bread with someone who doesn't have enough to eat or offering a kind word to someone who is having a bad day. It is the difference between rolling our sleeves up and pitching in to help during a time of crisis (Katrina, 911) without preaching or judging or trying to put blame on victims for their troubles. It's not so much what we say, but what we do. As a wise person once said, "Anyone knows how to behave in church.... it is when you are going about your daily lives that people are watching to see how you behave." |
Have I ever told you how wise I think you are?
As a new Christian I find the witnessing thing the most difficult. i can picture the faces of people I might witness to! I have so much admiration for those who use their religious impulses to do good, unfortunately we have all met those who use religion as a stick to beat other people with... |
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Posted: Mar 19, 2010 - 10:14 PM
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Did I read that right?
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Posted: Mar 20, 2010 - 12:21 AM
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| Gornman wrote: | | greenchick wrote: |
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Did I read that right?
Care to share?
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Others may be thinking the same thing. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2010 - 12:54 AM
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| Mirizor wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | greenchick wrote: |
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Did I read that right?
Care to share?
Yes, I AM asking |
Others may be thinking the same thing. |
Not asking, already knew!
Witnessing, whether by words or deeds, should always be lead by the Holy Spirit. The hard part, is knowing when the Holy Spirit is speaking. And while Christians may have the heart of Christ, we're still stuck with these sinful bodies. We may love Christ, but we still make mistakes, usually daily. That's why a nightly talk with God is so important. Not only to repent of our screw-ups of that day, but to pray for strength for the next.
I cannot know whether the person who started the religious thread was lead by the Holy Spirit or not. But I do believe that Christ taught to have respect for authority, and Paul is Bill's authority on this site, so I will do as he says.
It is important to witness with our lives, but sharing of the gospel with others is important. We were told to go forth and tell the good news. Okay, many people get so bogged down with telling people why they are going to Hell, that they never get around to anything else. I don't believe that is what God had in mind.........
I'll end this on that note, in respect for Paul's wishes. However, if anyone, at anytime, would like to discuss this subject further, I am always available on e-mail or by phone! |
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[quote="Gornman"]| greenchick wrote: |
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Did I read that right?
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Yeah, you read that right, now don't the Lord move in mysterious ways?!
I don't want to post my email address publicly, but if you ask Cat for my email, I would be happy to chat... |
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[quote="greenchick"]| Gornman wrote: | | greenchick wrote: |
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Did I read that right?
Care to share?
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Yeah, you read that right, now don't the Lord move in mysterious ways?!
I don't want to post my email address publicly, but if you ask Cat for my email, I would be happy to chat... |
You two in cahoots, I knew it
I had your email once. I don't need a chat, but I am sincerely
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Posted: Mar 20, 2010 - 01:14 AM
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| Catt wrote: | | Mirizor wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | greenchick wrote: |
As a new Christian
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Did I read that right?
Care to share?
Yes, I AM asking |
Others may be thinking the same thing. |
Not asking, already knew!
Witnessing, whether by words or deeds, should always be lead by the Holy Spirit. The hard part, is knowing when the Holy Spirit is speaking. And while Christians may have the heart of Christ, we're still stuck with these sinful bodies. We may love Christ, but we still make mistakes, usually daily. That's why a nightly talk with God is so important. Not only to repent of our screw-ups of that day, but to pray for strength for the next.
I cannot know whether the person who started the religious thread was lead by the Holy Spirit or not. But I do believe that Christ taught to have respect for authority, and Paul is Bill's authority on this site, so I will do as he says.
It is important to witness with our lives, but sharing of the gospel with others is important. We were told to go forth and tell the good news. Okay, many people get so bogged down with telling people why they are going to Hell, that they never get around to anything else. I don't believe that is what God had in mind.........
I'll end this on that note, in respect for Paul's wishes. However, if anyone, at anytime, would like to discuss this subject further, I am always available on e-mail or by phone! |
I'm glad you knew Cat. I figured that greenchick was quiet for a reason. |
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| Thanks, it's filled my life with a love I never knew existed! |
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| greenchick wrote: | | SMB wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | teclaydon wrote: | Big words like 'proselytizing' make my head hurt, so anything that causes them to be used can't be good...
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First, I am NOT going to get in a religious fight here, I agree with Paul,
this is no place for it, you aren't going to convert anyone here.
But I would like to make one point......proselytizing
I remember my "West Wing". they loved that word.
It's called the Great Commission in the Bible, it's also called "witnessing".
Believers are "told" to share their witness with others.
I've always wondered the reasons behind the need to change the word... |
Witnessing doesn't always mean sharing words. It is showing others by the way we live. It is sharing a loaf of bread with someone who doesn't have enough to eat or offering a kind word to someone who is having a bad day. It is the difference between rolling our sleeves up and pitching in to help during a time of crisis (Katrina, 911) without preaching or judging or trying to put blame on victims for their troubles. It's not so much what we say, but what we do. As a wise person once said, "Anyone knows how to behave in church.... it is when you are going about your daily lives that people are watching to see how you behave." |
Have I ever told you how wise I think you are?
As a new Christian I find the witnessing thing the most difficult. i can picture the faces of people I might witness to! I have so much admiration for those who use their religious impulses to do good, unfortunately we have all met those who use religion as a stick to beat other people with... |
Thank you Greenchick. One thing I learned over the years was the importance of personal quiet time with God and paying attention to my own spiritual growth. There were many well meaning people who tried to force feed me stuff before I was ready for it. I learned to take my time.
And, of course, I am still growing and stumbling and get up. There are times when I think the only way I will get a "Well done," is to get caught in a fire and be crispy well done.  |
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| WELL DONE, SUE... WELL DONE |
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Excellent... Loved this. True Religion is just what you wrote Sue. Not being judgemental, not beating people over their heads and not having the crazy holier than thou attitude. Bravo!
| SMB wrote: | | greenchick wrote: | | SMB wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | teclaydon wrote: | Big words like 'proselytizing' make my head hurt, so anything that causes them to be used can't be good...
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First, I am NOT going to get in a religious fight here, I agree with Paul,
this is no place for it, you aren't going to convert anyone here.
But I would like to make one point......proselytizing
I remember my "West Wing". they loved that word.
It's called the Great Commission in the Bible, it's also called "witnessing".
Believers are "told" to share their witness with others.
I've always wondered the reasons behind the need to change the word... |
Witnessing doesn't always mean sharing words. It is showing others by the way we live. It is sharing a loaf of bread with someone who doesn't have enough to eat or offering a kind word to someone who is having a bad day. It is the difference between rolling our sleeves up and pitching in to help during a time of crisis (Katrina, 911) without preaching or judging or trying to put blame on victims for their troubles. It's not so much what we say, but what we do. As a wise person once said, "Anyone knows how to behave in church.... it is when you are going about your daily lives that people are watching to see how you behave." |
Have I ever told you how wise I think you are?
As a new Christian I find the witnessing thing the most difficult. i can picture the faces of people I might witness to! I have so much admiration for those who use their religious impulses to do good, unfortunately we have all met those who use religion as a stick to beat other people with... |
Thank you Greenchick. One thing I learned over the years was the importance of personal quiet time with God and paying attention to my own spiritual growth. There were many well meaning people who tried to force feed me stuff before I was ready for it. I learned to take my time.
And, of course, I am still growing and stumbling and get up. There are times when I think the only way I will get a "Well done," is to get caught in a fire and be crispy well done. |
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| kstahmer wrote: | | KoriLinae wrote: | REally... trying to READ such high falutin words has given me a headache...
btw... HI!
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Welcome back KoriLinae.
And please, don't be concerned about highfalutin words.
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LOL.. that made me laugh. Now my head hurts again... hahah |
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Author Unknown...well sort of...
A new pastor moved into town and went out one Saturday to visit his community. All went well until he came to one house. It was obvious that someone was home, but no one came to the door even after he knocked several times. Finally, he took out his card, wrote on the back "Revelation 3:20" and stuck it in the door. The next day, as he was counting the offering he found his card in the collection plate. Below his message was a notation "Genesis 3:10." Upon opening his Bible to the passage he let out a roar of laughter.
Revelation 3:20 reads: (Pastors note) "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear my voice, and opens the door, I will come into him, and will dine with him, and he with me."
Genesis 3:10 reads: "And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked." |
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Littlestar, you crack me up!
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| Littlestar! VERY cute! |
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| greenchick wrote: | | Thanks, it's filled my life with a love I never knew existed! |
If you want that to continue, go to your religious leaders and demand to be baptized on a daily basis. |
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