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Post subject: Whale kills trainer as horrified spectators watch
 Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 03:24 AM
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ORLANDO, Fla.— A SeaWorld killer whale snatched a trainer off a poolside platform in its jaws Wednesday and thrashed the woman around underwater, killing her in front of a horrified audience. It marked the third time the animal had been involved in a human death.
http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr ... d_by_whale
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 04:32 AM
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Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose  |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 09:48 AM
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| Third Time, I wonder what they taste like, sounds like Sushi to me |
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Post subject: Having a Whale of a Time
Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 01:10 PM
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Okay, what's with the cops saying the trainer slipped and fell into the pool? The eyewitnesses all reported a very different story. The cop report sounds like a mafia excuse to me.
Maybe they should release the whale back into the ocean. "Here ya go, kid! Have a whale of a time!" |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 03:09 PM
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| The whale doth protest his captivity in the only manner available to him. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 03:32 PM
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I have only been to Sea World a few times, but twice, I witnessed some problems. I figured that it would only be a matter of time before someone was killed.
One time there was an act where Shamu went around the pool with a girl who had her leg in his mouth. Things went good until Shamu didn't obey the command to let her go. It was several minutes before Shamu finally let go. The girl was not seriously hurt but was angry. She was taken back stage, but a few minutes later, I saw her coming out with what looked like a large knife. She was angry and stomping toward the pool. It took several people to subdue her. I know they took that act out of the show. They also changed the suits from the different colors to what the performer now wear (black and white like the whale).
Another time, a male performer was riding Shamu. The whale flipped his tail in a certain way which sent the man flying through the air and he landed on the deck. The show was stopped short. Someone commented that Mamu was close by and Shamu had other things on his mind besides performing. It wasn't too long after that that Sea World announced that Mamu was pregnant. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 03:36 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
I wonder is male whales are similar to male elephants. I understand that the circus uses mainly female elephants in performances because they are easier to handle. The males tend to get too aggressive.
I wonder if male whales may be more aggressive than female whales. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 04:04 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
Exactly! We expect these animals to behave like humans, or at least trained pets. They're neither.
What is sad to me is that often the animals are punished or euthanized for behaving exactly as they should. People just suck. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 04:16 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
It's this left-wing mindset that causes supposedly intelligent human beings to culpably forget that wild animals are wild animals. Dumb. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 04:35 PM
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| morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
It's this left-wing mindset that causes supposedly intelligent human beings to culpably forget that wild animals are wild animals. Dumb. |
Lets just splash and frolic with our aquatic mammalian friends and throw all reason and cautious inhibitions to the wind. That kind of fundamental irrationality eventually backfires with obviously tragic results...and it should cause some people to reexamine their own conclusions about humans so cavalierly putting themselves in great physical jeopardy so willfully with extremely dangerous large animals. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 05:13 PM
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qualify or quantify that statement.
| morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
It's this left-wing mindset that causes supposedly intelligent human beings to culpably forget that wild animals are wild animals. Dumb. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 06:14 PM
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| Debb wrote: | qualify or quantify that statement.
| morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | Truly sad....
IMO you can NEVER forget, these ARE wild animals...
You can use them just so much, and if you forget the "wild"
part, you are going to lose |
It's this left-wing mindset that causes supposedly intelligent human beings to culpably forget that wild animals are wild animals. Dumb. |
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This touchy-feely attitude towards wild animals certainly wasn't born of any conservative mindset.   |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 06:21 PM
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| Here's an example of where I coming from...in 1975 the alligator was an endangered species so we let up on slaughtering them and allowed the population to increase...and now we have human beings especially children being routinely attacked by gators in southern states like Florida. The price for saving the alligator from extinction now places human safety in jeopardy That is fundamentally a bad bargain because in the final analysis you cannot equate animals with people. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 06:37 PM
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| morgram wrote: | | you cannot equate animals with people. |
I totally agree. Animals are much better than people......... 
We have a few kids in our neighborhood that would work for gator food if Florida runs short.  Nothing around here will eat them. I know. We've tried.  |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 07:37 PM
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Follow up story:
ORLANDO - Trainers will continue to work with a killer whale that grabbed one of their colleagues and dragged her underwater, killing her, but SeaWorld said Thursday it is reviewing its procedures.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/25 ... -breaking/ |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 08:29 PM
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| A wilde animal - so a domestic one - it's not our toy neither a clown for our amusement! We so often forget about it. The circusses, never mind how we name them, Barnum's Circuss or Sea World, is not a place for a wild animal. That tragedy is a proof.<br> |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 10:08 PM
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| morgram wrote: | ...
you cannot equate animals with people. |
Sure you can.
People, human beings, Eukarya-Animalia-Chordata-Vertebrata-Mammalia-Primate-Homindae-Homo-Homo sapiens are animals.
Just like cats, dogs, squirrels and killer whales are animals.
The Last Universal Ancestor (LUA) lived on Earth 3.5 - 3.8 billion years ago, sometime during the Paleoarchean Era. It gave rise to the following phylogenetic tree:
morgram, notice that you, I, and fungi are Eukaryota. That means you, I, and fungi have a common ancestor; whence, we're all related.
So the next time you sprinkle antifungal medication to obliterate your pesky athlete's foot, don't forget to say:
"Hasta la vista, distant relative!" |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 10:57 PM
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I sees it this way:
Killer Whale: 3
Humans: ????
How many killer whales have been "extinguished" due to humans??
It's revenge for that. Plain and simple!! |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 11:16 PM
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The Human Animal has forgotten HOW to communicate with his brethren and forget that they do NOT follow the same clocks and schedules as the hairless apes choose to follow. It is HUMAN error in this Tragedy...
This Whale needs to be retired....period |
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Posted: Feb 26, 2010 - 12:25 AM
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Tilikum had a rap sheet.
FREE TILIKUM!!! |
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| kstahmer wrote: | | morgram wrote: | ...
you cannot equate animals with people. |
Sure you can.
People, human beings, Eukarya-Animalia-Chordata-Vertebrata-Mammalia-Primate-Homindae-Homo-Homo sapiens are animals.
Just like cats, dogs, squirrels and killer whales are animals.
The Last Universal Ancestor (LUA) lived on Earth 3.5 - 3.8 billion years ago, sometime during the Paleoarchean Era. It gave rise to the following phylogenetic tree:
morgram, notice that you, I, and fungi are Eukaryota. That means you, I, and fungi have a common ancestor; whence, we're all related.
So the next time you sprinkle antifungal medication to obliterate your pesky athlete's foot, don't forget to say:
"Hasta la vista, distant relative!" |
Problem is I do not believe in the evolutionary theory. Yep. Just mark me down as yet another pro-creation religious zealot.  |
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Posted: Feb 26, 2010 - 01:20 AM
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| littlestar wrote: | The Human Animal has forgotten HOW to communicate with his brethren and forget that they do NOT follow the same clocks and schedules as the hairless apes choose to follow. It is HUMAN error in this Tragedy...
This Whale needs to be retired....period |
Agreed...
But Tilikum's retirement is problematic.
Why? Here's why:
"SeaWorld's only concern is profits; animal welfare is not their priority."
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"Money makes the world go around,
The world go around,
The world go around,
Money makes the world go around,
Of that we can be sure.
Pffft on being poor."
-- Liza Minnelli, Joel Grey (Cabaret, Money) |
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Posted: Feb 26, 2010 - 03:36 AM
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Underneath our fascade of designer clothing, fast cars, techno-gadgets, we are all animals pure and simple.
I am living proof. One time, I thought our car was going over the side of a mountain. I let out a sound that was pure animal, not recognizably human. Since then, I knew the truth about being a human animal. |
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| morgram wrote: | ...
Problem is I do not believe in the evolutionary theory. Yep. Just mark me down as yet another pro-creation religious zealot. |
| littlestar wrote: | The Human Animal has forgotten HOW to communicate with his brethren and forget that they do NOT follow the same clocks and schedules as the hairless apes choose to follow. It is HUMAN error in this Tragedy...
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"Humans don't have dominion over animals. We are animals. We're the fifth ape."
-- Richard Dawkins, The Fifth Ape
"Frightful and painfully and disagreeably human"
-- Queen Victoria (her unsettled reaction upon first seeing an orangutan named Jenny at the London Zoo in 1842) |
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| kstahmer wrote: | | morgram wrote: | ...
Problem is I do not believe in the evolutionary theory. Yep. Just mark me down as yet another pro-creation religious zealot. |
| littlestar wrote: | The Human Animal has forgotten HOW to communicate with his brethren and forget that they do NOT follow the same clocks and schedules as the hairless apes choose to follow. It is HUMAN error in this Tragedy...
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"Humans don't have dominion over animals. We are animals. We're the fifth ape."
-- Richard Dawkins, The Fifth Ape
"Frightful and painfully and disagreeably human"
-- Queen Victoria (her unsettled reaction upon first seeing an orangutan named Jenny at the London Zoo in 1842) |
I do not concern myself with the ramblings of supremely self-important and Godless a-holes.  |
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