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Post subject: Difficulty Swallowing?
 Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 02:54 PM
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| I'm not talking about having a sore throat. I'm talking eathing or drinking something then when it gets to about your sternum the rest of the way to your stomach it feels like you swallowed a piece of glass. So anyone? Cause and cure? |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 03:07 PM
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Tina, I've had this same problem, along with a swollen tongue. It appears to be GURD, or acid reflux, in combination with esophageal spasms (possibly caused or at least added to by the acid).
Do you have much problem with heartburn? Or do you have these kind of squeezing pains (sort of like a charlie horse in your middle chest area)? If so, maybe you have the same thing.
There are lots of meds for heartburn, but most of them have a lot of side effects. There are some natural remedies, many of them containing essences of oranges, but I haven't found anything that helps all that much yet. Maybe LS will have an idea.
I do know that stress plays a part, even more so than what I eat. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 03:13 PM
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| Yeah I have horrible Gerd. I was taking Prevacid solutabs for years but in Jan my insurance decided to raise my deductible from $20 to $100 for it. So needless to say I've been off everything but good old rolaids. I can't take pills. My therapist is talking about trying hypnosis (I dunno about that) to help me with the anxiety of trying to take one. I dunno, we'll see. I'm just wondering what will happen if I don't get meds for it. And a natural remedy would be wonderful! |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 11:07 PM
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Unfortunately I and many others assumed that the GERD was happening because of too much stomach acid and therefore over many years we took many different acid reducers. I took famotidine and librax for 20 years...now it has caused,( or maybe it was always the fact),LOW stomach acid amounts which is actually what allows the reflux. The best product I have taken for soothing and lessening the problem is Slippery Elm. You may find powder at a lot of Health Stores and mix it to taste. Using Probiotics and making sure your B12 levels are high enough are important too. When you were going through all those tests...did they give you the test for H. pylori ?
This bacteria seems to be a causal factor in many cases of Gastric distress.
The worst thing we can do is take something like Rolaids...though they try to SELL US on the fact that it will help our calcium levels and the Gerd...it actually leeches the minerals from us and increases the problem.
Doing a REALLY Bland Diet for 2 weeks to calm things down is always a good way to start....I bet DI can back me up on that one. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 - 11:59 PM
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| I don't believe I've had that test and you can bet I'm gonna call the Dr about it tomorrow. |
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 12:12 AM
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I have had these problems for years , and I do use now and again Zantac and Quickeze(An acid Tablet)about four times a day, and always a quickeze just before sleeping many times I have woken up with a severe regurgitation that nearly chokes me.
The Diet I have is so bland that it is basic and boring, food to me is just energy so this is not a problem, I have to avoid acidic fruits and all spices.
I can not drink acidic drinks, and wine etc is totally out:) even the fizz in lemonade (sprite) is a problem. For the sever pain I experience about twice a year I use Gaviscon. This is pain not heartburn which I have off and on throughout the day.
Over many years I have worked out the triggers for my sever oesophagus reflux. In the end nothing really cures it, you just learn to live with it. and relieve it.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 03:05 AM
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[quote="littlestar"]Unfortunately I and many others assumed that the GERD was happening because of too much stomach acid and therefore over many years we took many different acid reducers. I took famotidine and librax for 20 years...now it has caused,( or maybe it was always the fact),LOW stomach acid amounts which is actually what allows the reflux. The best product I have taken for soothing and lessening the problem is Slippery Elm. You may find powder at a lot of Health Stores and mix it to taste. Using Probiotics and making sure your B12 levels are high enough are important too. When you were going through all those tests...did they give you the test for H. pylori ?
This bacteria seems to be a causal factor in many cases of Gastric distress.
The worst thing we can do is take something like Rolaids...though they try to SELL US on the fact that it will help our calcium levels and the Gerd...it actually leeches the minerals from us and increases the problem.
Doing a REALLY Bland Diet for 2 weeks to calm things down is always a good way to start....I bet DI can back me up on that one.[/quote]
Yep, I can back you up on that one.....
No milk, spicy foods and soda pop for two weeks can do wonders ...But what has helped me the most is drinking the home made veggie broth for the potassium!
My stomach has calmed down and is doing better...and I now drink the veggie broth 2-3 days with a meal, then take a break for a couple of days from it, then another 2-3 days.....
I tried milk and that was still a no no yet,.....but I can have some cottage cheese with something and not have a problem...staying away from fatty foods helps too but don't cut off all fats.
The recipie for the veggie broth is in one of the Cafe threads I think, as I can't remember it right now....
also not eating 2 hours before going to bed helps and sleeping with my head up a little helps too.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 03:40 AM
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Sounds like my pattern Di...I get my fats from Chicken and fish...and I even cut out a lot of the chicken fats by steaming or broiling. When I take the broth, after steaming, I put it in containers into the fridge and then spoon off the fat after a day...bring to semi boil, then add rice...and pick the carcass to make a chicken rice stew. It's really soothing. Try adding Cumin as a spice...very little, it gives great flavor, but doesn't seem to be a trigger.
As for the cottage cheese...just like me, I bet you'll find processed milk products will be OK in small doses. Have ya tried the Feta yet?....Tell me what you think when you do. |
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 03:21 PM
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| Okay I called the Dr. I did have specimen taken during my endoscopy to be tested and it came back negative for H. Pylori. |
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 03:42 PM
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| Tina wrote: | | Okay I called the Dr. I did have specimen taken during my endoscopy to be tested and it came back negative for H. Pylori. |
I've also tested negative. I've been tested several times, because of the link to ITP and H. Pylori, but it's always negative.
I don't have a problem with spices. I can eat peppers, and it doesn't affect me. But too much dairy, fats, or any carbonation, and I pay for it.
But, stress seems to be the major factor in how my stomach acts.
Just curious, but did they find any evidence of either a hiatal hernia or diverticulitis when they did the endoscopy? I have a hiatal hernia, and I think that may contribute to the GURD. |
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Posted: Feb 24, 2010 - 03:49 PM
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| Catt wrote: | | Tina wrote: | | Okay I called the Dr. I did have specimen taken during my endoscopy to be tested and it came back negative for H. Pylori. |
I've also tested negative. I've been tested several times, because of the link to ITP and H. Pylori, but it's always negative.
I don't have a problem with spices. I can eat peppers, and it doesn't affect me. But too much dairy, fats, or any carbonation, and I pay for it.
But, stress seems to be the major factor in how my stomach acts.
Just curious, but did they find any evidence of either a hiatal hernia or diverticulitis when they did the endoscopy? I have a hiatal hernia, and I think that may contribute to the GURD. |
I do have a hernia along with polys, Schatzki ring and gastritus. And yes... major stress and anxiety here being bipolar. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 09:45 AM
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| My husband has that experience but only occasionally. We've put it down to him just eating like a wolf, taking too big bites and not taking the time to chew properly. |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 04:08 PM
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| Tina wrote: | | Catt wrote: | | Tina wrote: | | Okay I called the Dr. I did have specimen taken during my endoscopy to be tested and it came back negative for H. Pylori. |
I've also tested negative. I've been tested several times, because of the link to ITP and H. Pylori, but it's always negative.
I don't have a problem with spices. I can eat peppers, and it doesn't affect me. But too much dairy, fats, or any carbonation, and I pay for it.
But, stress seems to be the major factor in how my stomach acts.
Just curious, but did they find any evidence of either a hiatal hernia or diverticulitis when they did the endoscopy? I have a hiatal hernia, and I think that may contribute to the GURD. |
I do have a hernia along with polys, Schatzki ring and gastritus. And yes... major stress and anxiety here being bipolar. |
Sounds like we have a lot of the same problems. Wish I could offer you more advice, but I haven't really found anything that helps me yet. What is funny, is that if my heartburn is really bad in the morning, I'll keep an iced mocha to sip on. In theory, that should make it worse, but it helps. Go figure...... |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2010 - 08:10 PM
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'Cause hey...it's raising your acid level and causing a stricture which closes the esophagus and keeps the reflux from happening. Whatever works....
Try the Slippery Elm...if you can handle the consistency...or get the lozenges.
With what's happening in the World, it's hard to avoid any stress.... |
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