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Am I only one who thinks the media is way over the top with all this Michael Jackson coverage? Every news broadcast, telvision news magazine, radio station, newspaper, magazine, tributes, concerts, etc. Enough already. We all know the guys dead, and there's nothing new to tell. So drop it until there's something new. Personally, I'm waiting to see the autopsy report. I'll admit I never thought much about the guy, too many questions and accusations for my taste.
With all the stuff going on in the world, the sham elections in Iran, the withdrawl of troops from the urban areas in Iraq, the violence in Pakistan, North Korea bolstering their nukes with accusations against the US, what are we doing talking about Jackson nonstop?
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| Remember the Hoopla for Anna Nicole Smith ? |
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| Same deal, I didn't get it then either. |
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It keeps the mind off of worries...like, When am I gonna get a job?...How will I get the kids new shoes?...Am I gonna Lose my Home?...that kinda stuff.
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I'm with you on that, though it doesn't surprise me in the least.
The media is going to be orgasmic over this for a long time.
I feel bad that Farrah got the shaft on this. Billy Mays too, but he never would have gotten extensive coverage anyway.
The guy undeniably had OODLES of talent, but his absolute trainwreck of a life, plus the nasty possibilities of things he may have done....I don't understand how he has such legions of rabid fans anymore.
In part I think it's just the cult of personality/flock mentality. It's kinda sad.
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I agree with the overkill, but there is one angle they'll NEVER take...
The US PREZ is black 
The best golfer in the world is black
Why was MJ trying to be white?  |
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You may have touched off a powderkeg with that one. I'm interested to see what others have to say.
I know Quincy Jones wasn't too happy with Michael's transformation, but Spike Lee said tonight that that's water under the bridge..... |
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It's amazing isn't it?
I ask a question here, that everybody's thinking, but the media
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Our media can no longer even feign objectiveness.... |
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There is "passing as white" which was done to try to avoid prejudice and discrimination. That is a problem for quite a few families. It's what I discovered about my ancestors- some American Indians tried to pass as white if they could (in many cases just so they would survive). I've also heard of people who "tried to be" a race that they were not- and I've met people adopted into tribes because they were far more comfortable in that culture than in the one they were raised in. So, in my eyes, that may not have the stigma that it would for someone else. I don't think that is the case with Michael Jackson.
I also remember that Michael was diagnosed with Vitiligo- a skin disorder that I've known about- every since I read "Black Like Me" many years ago (when I was a kid). I've also known a couple of people over the years with vitiligo - and it's devastating. Michael Jackson wasn't trying to "be white" or trying to bleach out his skin- he LOOKED like someone with Vitiligo. (Not all types of Vitiligo look alike, but he looked like one of the people I knew several years ago with the disorder- skin texture and so on. The skin looked "off" in some way that I have trouble describing- but when I saw the pictures of him later in life the first thought was that he had the disorder- and then learned that he had actually said that he did.)
He also had Lupus, which is also bad bad news. It can be mild, but Lupus also is known to kill. In fact, that makes me wonder about what killed him... |
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Are you trying to describe the Vitiligo skin texture as Dead Fish like...or drowning victim like?
I've seen it too, when I worked at Everly Wheatley Funeral Home....
It may have explained the deterioration of his nose...the surgery wasn't done just to make it look more Anglo, as some think. The loss of pigmentation in his skin was causing patches too, so the laser work was to try and even out the obvious perimeters and the Oxygen capsule helped with the healing and microbial control. Lupus will often cause blood sugar disorder, vertigo, tinnitus, Menieres Disease, BAD arthritic pain in joints and tendons...so that can explain the often wobbly,or silly,gait that he would get. I heard awhile ago that he was starting to have seizures too....
We may never know all, as he tried desperately to keep all of his Health Problems a secret. He would rather people think he was just weird, rather than really ill...because THEN he wouldn't have been allowed to do concerts and DANCE.
I think he preferred to live a shorter amount of time and do what he loved, than to be protected from it and live longer missing it.
THERE...I just did Media Overkill myself....  |
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Wow, you worked that hard to explain away, something so easy
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I never thought it was my business what Michael Jackson looked like, or how he walked, talked, ate, etc. His appearance is no one's business but his own, and he could do whatever he felt he needed to do either because of his health, or just because he felt like it.
But, if he did not outright molest children, he did confess, at least, to totally inappropriate behaviour with him. I'm sorry, but the fact that he died doesn't change that. I enjoyed most of his music, but I cannot, and will not, excuse his actions with kids. |
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| I think it's that Michael Jackson died so suddenly and so soon when he was due to go on his comeback as well as his final tour and that he's the biggest pop star in the world and that's why he gets all this media coverage.The media is overkill indeed because it overshadowed the others that passed away before him:Ed McMahon,Farrah Fawcett,Billy Mays and Fred Travalena,which we should not forget.Michael was bigger than big,in spite of his outrageous,personal demons and his notorious court troubles.That's the price of fame,fortune and power.As for me,my interest is in his music which is his legacy.R.I.P. |
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| Cat wrote: | I never thought it was my business what Michael Jackson looked like, or how he walked, talked, ate, etc. His appearance is no one's business but his own, and he could do whatever he felt he needed to do either because of his health, or just because he felt like it.
But, if he did not outright molest children, he did confess, at least, to totally inappropriate behaviour with him. I'm sorry, but the fact that he died doesn't change that. I enjoyed most of his music, but I cannot, and will not, excuse his actions with kids. |
A-friggin-men!
It amazes me that legions of people, who would otherwise revile a potential child molester, give him a free pass. |
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| Gornman wrote: | I agree with the overkill, but there is one angle they'll NEVER take...
The US PREZ is black
The best golfer in the world is black
Why was MJ trying to be white? |
You nailed that one right on the button, Gorny. The other nite I watched the beginning of the BET Awards and, of course, the first speaker was some half-assed rap artist and he starts off with "Michael Jackson was a BLACK man...HE belonged to US! WE just SHARED him with everyone ELSE." Quite a revelation, I always thought it was Jackson's own idea to share his talent with the rest of the world. AT EVERY CONCEIVABLE OPPORTUNITY those on the left JUST LOVE to interject racial politics. Last week within less than 2 hours after it being reported that Michael Jackson had died, you had Sharpton delivering a phony sounding diatribe supposedly lamenting Jackson's passing and how alot of people who trashed Jackson while he was living were now praising him. I'm surprised he didn't mention Fox News by name. As far as overkill, the 24/7 news networks have been overkilling for many years now. I remember what it was like before the 9/11 attack. Hour after hour, minute after minute for many weeks, their single-minded fixation with Gary Condit. 12 hours after the attack, WHO'S Gary Condit? The mass media has been wallowing in overkill for years...and it's not just that. It's their overall demeanor. Most of them come across as Hollywood gossip reporters instead of journalists. I've been sick of our mass media for years. |
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| morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | I agree with the overkill, but there is one angle they'll NEVER take...
The US PREZ is black
The best golfer in the world is black
Why was MJ trying to be white? |
You nailed that one right on the button, Gorny. The other nite I watched the beginning of the BET Awards and, of course, the first speaker was some half-assed rap artist and he starts off with "Michael Jackson was a BLACK man...HE belonged to US! WE just SHARED him with everyone ELSE." Quite a revelation, I always thought it was Jackson's own idea to share his talent with the rest of the world. AT EVERY CONCEIVABLE OPPORTUNITY those on the left JUST LOVE to interject racial politics. Last week within less than 2 hours after it being reported that Michael Jackson had died, you had Sharpton delivering a phony sounding diatribe supposedly lamenting Jackson's passing and how alot of people who trashed Jackson while he was living were now praising him. I'm surprised he didn't mention Fox News by name. As far as overkill, the 24/7 news networks have been overkilling for many years now. I remember what it was like before the 9/11 attack. Hour after hour, minute after minute for many weeks, their single-minded fixation with Gary Condit. 12 hours after the attack, WHO'S Gary Condit? The mass media has been wallowing in overkill for years...and it's not just that. It's their overall demeanor. Most of them come across as Hollywood gossip reporters instead of journalists. I've been sick of our mass media for years. |
You know, it's a real shame that the left has such an ugly side to it because there are hundreds of millions of people wordwide, of all races and ethnicities, who want to pay homage to Michael Jackson because of the extraordinary musical entertainer that he was...but unfortunately, all some on the left see in the passing of Michael Jackson is an opportunity to feed their hate by using the event to take petty potshots at whitey. It is disgusting, sickening and infuriating. |
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| AGAIN...you make it Political?...I hate to tell you this, but it seems it isn't the LEFT that are making negative statements.... I talked about a Human Being...Not Black, Not White, Not Left, Not Right....you all go ahead ...I'm done.... |
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| littlestar wrote: | | AGAIN...you make it Political?...I hate to tell you this, but it seems it isn't the LEFT that are making negative statements.... I talked about a Human Being...Not Black, Not White, Not Left, Not Right....you all go ahead ...I'm done.... |
I just described what I heard the other nite at the beginning of the BET Awards, LS. I didn't make that up...so I don't know what YOU'RE talking about. |
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| morgram wrote: | | morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | I agree with the overkill, but there is one angle they'll NEVER take...
The US PREZ is black
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Why was MJ trying to be white? |
You nailed that one right on the button, Gorny. The other nite I watched the beginning of the BET Awards and, of course, the first speaker was some half-assed rap artist and he starts off with "Michael Jackson was a BLACK man...HE belonged to US! WE just SHARED him with everyone ELSE." Quite a revelation, I always thought it was Jackson's own idea to share his talent with the rest of the world. AT EVERY CONCEIVABLE OPPORTUNITY those on the left JUST LOVE to interject racial politics. Last week within less than 2 hours after it being reported that Michael Jackson had died, you had Sharpton delivering a phony sounding diatribe supposedly lamenting Jackson's passing and how alot of people who trashed Jackson while he was living were now praising him. I'm surprised he didn't mention Fox News by name. As far as overkill, the 24/7 news networks have been overkilling for many years now. I remember what it was like before the 9/11 attack. Hour after hour, minute after minute for many weeks, their single-minded fixation with Gary Condit. 12 hours after the attack, WHO'S Gary Condit? The mass media has been wallowing in overkill for years...and it's not just that. It's their overall demeanor. Most of them come across as Hollywood gossip reporters instead of journalists. I've been sick of our mass media for years. |
You know, it's a real shame that the left has such an ugly side to it because there are hundreds of millions of people wordwide, of all races and ethnicities, who want to pay homage to Michael Jackson because of the extraordinary musical entertainer that he was...but unfortunately, all some on the left see in the passing of Michael Jackson is an opportunity to feed their hate by using the event to take petty potshots at whitey. It is disgusting, sickening and infuriating. |
Funny Morgram, I don't think I see anything leftist in what you highlighted. Perhaps it was a poor word choice in that the rapper was obviously an African American and he obviously was claiming MJ for African Americans... it wasn't a massive leftist statement... in fact it was a bit of truth in that MJ was originally African American... no matter how many surgeries he had to change that. |
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| Seamus wrote: | | morgram wrote: | | morgram wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | I agree with the overkill, but there is one angle they'll NEVER take...
The US PREZ is black
The best golfer in the world is black
Why was MJ trying to be white? |
You nailed that one right on the button, Gorny. The other nite I watched the beginning of the BET Awards and, of course, the first speaker was some half-assed rap artist and he starts off with "Michael Jackson was a BLACK man...HE belonged to US! WE just SHARED him with everyone ELSE." Quite a revelation, I always thought it was Jackson's own idea to share his talent with the rest of the world. AT EVERY CONCEIVABLE OPPORTUNITY those on the left JUST LOVE to interject racial politics. Last week within less than 2 hours after it being reported that Michael Jackson had died, you had Sharpton delivering a phony sounding diatribe supposedly lamenting Jackson's passing and how alot of people who trashed Jackson while he was living were now praising him. I'm surprised he didn't mention Fox News by name. As far as overkill, the 24/7 news networks have been overkilling for many years now. I remember what it was like before the 9/11 attack. Hour after hour, minute after minute for many weeks, their single-minded fixation with Gary Condit. 12 hours after the attack, WHO'S Gary Condit? The mass media has been wallowing in overkill for years...and it's not just that. It's their overall demeanor. Most of them come across as Hollywood gossip reporters instead of journalists. I've been sick of our mass media for years. |
You know, it's a real shame that the left has such an ugly side to it because there are hundreds of millions of people wordwide, of all races and ethnicities, who want to pay homage to Michael Jackson because of the extraordinary musical entertainer that he was...but unfortunately, all some on the left see in the passing of Michael Jackson is an opportunity to feed their hate by using the event to take petty potshots at whitey. It is disgusting, sickening and infuriating. |
Funny Morgram, I don't think I see anything leftist in what you highlighted. Perhaps it was a poor word choice in that the rapper was obviously an African American and he obviously was claiming MJ for African Americans... it wasn't a massive leftist statement... in fact it was a bit of truth in that MJ was originally African American... no matter how many surgeries he had to change that. |
and just why should it be necessary for anybody to claim Michael Jackson for ANYONE??? He was loved by music lovers around the world. Why isn't that enough for some people? |
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In fact, that makes me wonder about what killed him... |
A murderer - probably one with an "M.D." after his name - killed Michael Jackson.
They discovered Diprivan (brand name, the generic is Propolfol) in MJ's house.
That's a med that ---
isn't found/carried in any drugstore/public pharmacy
is never even considered for uses in a private medical office... much less in a private home
only administered (properly) by an anesthesiologist and drung surgery or 'in house' surgical procedures in a shopital ICU or CCU
only properly administered via IV
never fully safely administered, even when by an anasthesiologist in an O.R.
The only way such a med got into MJ's house is having been brought in by a doctor (or, possibly, any non-doctor O.R. staff) who stole from a hospital pharmacy.
MJ himself didn't get his hands on this. Nor did he take it himself. Nor is it at all even remotely likely that he had access to a hospital pharmacy himself.
Someone got it illegally and administered it with the intent to kill. No one with access to it could possibly NOT know how immediately deadly the stuff is...
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor]Occam's Razor[/url]: MJ was murdered.
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OMG , this will never end
We'll have MJ's sighting for decades....
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| This is starting to remind me of the controversy surrounding the Slap Chop guy (Sham Wow guy for those of you west of the Mississippi). |
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| CaptJTK wrote: | Am I only one who thinks the media is way over the top with all this Michael Jackson coverage? Every news broadcast, telvision news magazine, radio station, newspaper, magazine, tributes, concerts, etc. Enough already. We all know the guys dead, and there's nothing new to tell. So drop it until there's something new. Personally, I'm waiting to see the autopsy report. I'll admit I never thought much about the guy, too many questions and accusations for my taste.
With all the stuff going on in the world, the sham elections in Iran, the withdrawl of troops from the urban areas in Iraq, the violence in Pakistan, North Korea bolstering their nukes with accusations against the US, what are we doing talking about Jackson nonstop?
Sorry, I just don't get it. |
You saved me the trouble of writing the exact same thing! |
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The media hasn't even begun yet!!!
Wait until they televise his funeral.......
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