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Post subject: My thoughts on Barack Obama  PostPosted: Nov 07, 2008 - 06:12 PM
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I have no intention of being unjustly critical of Obama either now or later. I will let his presidency speak for itself. Future commentary, IMO, will be quite unnecessary. I will, however, say this. In the next 12 months that lie before us I believe that President Obama will experience 2 great revelations. First, how blatantly unfair and UNJUST it was for him and everyone else in his party to have criticized George W. Bush EACH AND EVERY DAY...relentlessly, for the better part of the last 8 years BECAUSE they have not been in his shoes. Second, by the end of 2009 OBAMA WILL WISH that he had never ever thought about running for the job. THAT is what I think.
 
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...and why do you suppose anyone cares what you think?

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...and why do you suppose anyone cares what you think?
and why do I think that you don`t comment on my 2 observations regarding Obama`s future perspective?
 
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It's NOT going to be an easy Job....

But your Negativity is just sickening to me.... and it CAN'T be good for You

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Post subject: Re: My thoughts on Barack Obama  PostPosted: Nov 07, 2008 - 10:02 PM
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as I recall, harsh criticism was a two-way street in this campaign.

I, however, feel that things have nowhere to go but up.



morgram wrote:
I have no intention of being unjustly critical of Obama either now or later. I will let his presidency speak for itself. Future commentary, IMO, will be quite unnecessary. I will, however, say this. In the next 12 months that lie before us I believe that President Obama will experience 2 great revelations. First, how blatantly unfair and UNJUST it was for him and everyone else in his party to have criticized George W. Bush EACH AND EVERY DAY...relentlessly, for the better part of the last 8 years BECAUSE they have not been in his shoes. Second, by the end of 2009 OBAMA WILL WISH that he had never ever thought about running for the job. THAT is what I think.

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morgram wrote:
I have no intention of being unjustly critical of Obama either now or later. I will let his presidency speak for itself. Future commentary, IMO, will be quite unnecessary. I will, however, say this. In the next 12 months that lie before us I believe that President Obama will experience 2 great revelations. First, how blatantly unfair and UNJUST it was for him and everyone else in his party to have criticized George W. Bush EACH AND EVERY DAY...relentlessly, for the better part of the last 8 years BECAUSE they have not been in his shoes. Second, by the end of 2009 OBAMA WILL WISH that he had never ever thought about running for the job. THAT is what I think.


I have to tell you, reading the above rant had me laughing out SOO loudly! That was the funniest thing I have read here in ages. It reminded me of this:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc Wink

Morgram: "LEAVE BUSH ALONE!"

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morgram wrote:
I have no intention of being unjustly critical of Obama either now or later. I will let his presidency speak for itself. Future commentary, IMO, will be quite unnecessary. I will, however, say this. In the next 12 months that lie before us I believe that President Obama will experience 2 great revelations. First, how blatantly unfair and UNJUST it was for him and everyone else in his party to have criticized George W. Bush EACH AND EVERY DAY...relentlessly, for the better part of the last 8 years BECAUSE they have not been in his shoes. Second, by the end of 2009 OBAMA WILL WISH that he had never ever thought about running for the job. THAT is what I think.


I have to tell you, reading the above rant had me laughing out SOO loudly! That was the funniest thing I have read here in ages. It reminded me of this:

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc Wink

Morgram: "LEAVE BUSH ALONE!"


I think I know what that is without clicking it...so no, I'm not going to click it! Laughing

The presidency is not a job I would wish on anyone. And I do agree that anyone going for that job probably doesn't really know what they are getting themselves into.

That being said; I've not read enough to form an opinion. So I'm waiting and watching. I'm trying to use my limited knowledge of history to play the various actions against it's backdrop to see where the ball lands this time. It makes for some interesting data collection.

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Obama is a Liberal Socialist/Marxist and nothing is FREE .This country today wants a LARGE Government in place to take care of people that want FREE healthcare and Education . Free money, FREE FREE FREE ! Nothing is free . Large corps. and small companies will face heavy taxing that will put our jobs in jeapardy . There is over 12 million illegal people in the U.S. . Lets take all of them and all that does not have insurance and take approx. 60% of the working class's income to pay for FREE healthcare and Education . Study Canada and France healthcare to see what it is .
Take from the wealthy to give to the lower class and spread the wealth is Socialism .

"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You ask what you can do for your country" - John F. Kennedy - January 20th 1961

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Obama is a Liberal Socialist/Marxist and nothing is FREE .This country today wants a LARGE Government in place to take care of people that want FREE healthcare and Education . Free money, FREE FREE FREE ! Nothing is free . Large corps. and small companies will face heavy taxing that will put our jobs in jeapardy . There is over 12 million illigal people in the U.S. . Lets take all of them and all that does not have insurance and take approx. 60% of the working class's income to pay for FREE healthcare and Education . Study Canada and France healthcare to see what it is .
Take from the wealthy to give to the lower class and spread the wealth is Socialism .

"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You ask whay you can do for your country" - John F. Kennedy - January 20th 1961
Correct! What comrade Obama did was pull the old Robin Hood routine on the american people and it worked. The consequences of this great deception will be forthcoming. Of course when Wright and or Farrakhan show up in front of the white house during the inaugural festivities, tons of fools who voted for Obama are going to start wondering even then....hey Harry, you think Obama is a Liberal Socialist/Marxist?
 
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You simply don't know what you're talking about. Get your information from somewhere other than Fox news, then you might have something sensible to add to the discussion.

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Wouldn't that be the horse's a** if we were duped all along?

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Purely from a Psychological standpoint....

Do you ALL realise that the problems and paranoia of what has been occuring in our Country...is investing itself within all of YOU and that
you are becoming suspicious and hostile toward each other at a
highly protracted, accelerated rate?

I have been watching it grow...on a fairly level balance for the last month,
but this past week has made a surge apparent....

Anyone else seeing what I'm speaking of ?

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I think it must take a rather unhappy person to see the rejoicing around the world and not want to join in. As Jon Stewart said, look at all the crowds around the world celebrating America and not one flag being burnt. That should be a cause for celebration but some people seem to be determined to stay gloomy and Eyeore-ish!

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littlestar wrote:
Purely from a Psychological standpoint....

Do you ALL realise that the problems and paranoia of what has been occuring in our Country...is investing itself within all of YOU and that
you are becoming suspicious and hostile toward each other at a
highly protracted, accelerated rate?

I have been watching it grow...on a fairly level balance for the last month,
but this past week has made a surge apparent....

Anyone else seeing what I'm speaking of ?


You have the third eye littlestar....speak plainly please.

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I don't know HOW to express what I'm seeing any more plainly....

It is like...those we once trusted and felt friendly toward have now become one to suspect of evil intent toward our own well being....but even DEEPER than that...

Does that make sense?

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I think she means that you've been spied upon and lied to and that has caused you to become suspicious to the extent you can't rejoice in anything positive happening within your country. Or that if you are a fervent Republican you have internalised the paranoia and become hostile. Please correct me if I'm wrong, LS!

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I don't need a Political or Group label upon it...it bypasses any LABEL...
it is a purely Human -Animal instinct reaction to extreme paranoia...

Almost like Post Traumatic Stress....

CRAP...I wish I could see it better...but you do have the ONE factor correctly...People are absolutely resolute in not allowing themselves to have HOPE...

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littlestar wrote:
I don't need a Political or Group label upon it...it bypasses any LABEL...
it is a purely Human -Animal instinct reaction to extreme paranoia...

Almost like Post Traumatic Stress....

CRAP...I wish I could see it better...but you do have the ONE factor correctly...People are absolutely resolute in not allowing themselves to have HOPE...


I do agree with that assessment. When all one sees is circumstances surrounding the lost of hope.... Sad

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You realise that optimists live longer than pessimists?? You owe it to yourself to allow a teensy little ray of sunshine to enter your psyche.....

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You realise that optimists live longer than pessimists?? You owe it to yourself to allow a teensy little ray of sunshine to enter your psyche.....


Just as long as the psyche isn't lulled into complacency correct?

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GREGPARADINE wrote:
Obama is a Liberal Socialist/Marxist and nothing is FREE .This country today wants a LARGE Government in place to take care of people that want FREE healthcare and Education . Free money, FREE FREE FREE ! Nothing is free . Large corps. and small companies will face heavy taxing that will put our jobs in jeapardy . There is over 12 million illegal people in the U.S. . Lets take all of them and all that does not have insurance and take approx. 60% of the working class's income to pay for FREE healthcare and Education . Study Canada and France healthcare to see what it is .
Take from the wealthy to give to the lower class and spread the wealth is Socialism .

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That's not funny...to me...

I guess Americans have become the ridicule mongers of the World...

We can't seem to stop, nor can we hold anyone up as a role model or BELIEVE in ANYTHING anymore....

I am so Saddened by this....

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Surely it's poking fun more at the fears of those opposed to Obama than Obama himself??

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I understand where you are coming from...I do...but if it made ME feel bad...can you imagine what it makes someone feel like who doesn't look at the broad picture, but zeroes into point-by-point Negativity just looking for things to ridicule Obama with?

Are you following me here?

You are the one who wants them to feel Positive about the new President and the Changes which this Country must learn to accept and then we see
a "Ghetto " Joke... (EBONICS)....

I'm not upset about it..really...I get the "Fear Factor" aspect Joke of it....
I just dread responses to it...which lately have been so volatile...

We need to help them SEE the Positives of Americas' Choice....

I have ONE...I have been getting calls from Friends in Europe and other Foreign Locales...They congratulated me on the New Era to come...
I haven't heard those words in....I can't remember how long....

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littlestar wrote:
I don't need a Political or Group label upon it...it bypasses any LABEL...
it is a purely Human -Animal instinct reaction to extreme paranoia...

Almost like Post Traumatic Stress....

CRAP...I wish I could see it better...but you do have the ONE factor correctly...People are absolutely resolute in not allowing themselves to have HOPE...


That's very sad.

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