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 Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 06:40 AM
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Well it's official what a landslide...5.30am here in the U.K nice gracious speech from McCain. good of him to stop his crowd from booing.Great victory speech from Obama.
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 06:51 AM
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WELL...I hope Greenpeace has a few words with her....  |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 06:55 AM
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| I wonder whats going on in the McCain camp,if there is any finger pointing and blame laying over what went wrong.McCain said he let his supporters down, but i wonder should he really shoulder all the responsibility? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 07:10 AM
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It's NEVER a One-person game...so of course not....
but Sarah really did allot of damage...I hope he realises that.... |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 07:16 AM
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| Lovely speech by McCain. Palin.. the Republicans would be nuts to consider her in the future. If McCain had not selected her, he would not have won, but is votes would have been higher. She's poison! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 02:22 PM
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I fell asleep around 8:30 p.m. EST so I didn't get a chance to watch first-hand the end results or the speeches.
However, I didn't need to. I knew it in my bones that this would be the result.
The one ingredient that Barack Obama has that carried the day was his humility. All great leaders possess that trait.
There's a great article entitled Level 5 Leadership: The Triumph of Humility and Fierce Resolve by Jim Collins in the Harvard Business Review that is essential reading.
Obama displays all the traits of a man destined to be a great President. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 02:53 PM
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| Debb wrote: |
Obama displays all the traits of a man destined to be a great President. |
In total agreement! I knew Bush would be a bad president... and I bloody know Obama is going to be a legend! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:22 PM
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| I was listening to an American saying he can finally stop feeling embarrassed of his President when he travels abroad, no, not strong enough, he can finally feel downright proud of his President! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:38 PM
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| greenchick wrote: | | I was listening to an American saying he can finally stop feeling embarrassed of his President when he travels abroad, no, not strong enough, he can finally feel downright proud of his President! |
This is a truly beautiful thing that has happened, for so many reasons. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 03:54 PM
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| People all over the world are chanting his name! Let's hope he can ride the wave to do some real good for the planet...get a really global initiative on climate change for example. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:08 PM
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| greenchick wrote: | | People all over the world are chanting his name! Let's hope he can ride the wave to do some real good for the planet...get a really global initiative on climate change for example. |
I'll tell you something funny. Japanese trains are efficient and always on time, but today, as I rushed to get back for the results, I didn't have just one train be delayed, but TWO!!! So, as I stood at the platforms waiting desperately to get home, I was checking for updates on my phone. I've got to tell you, when it was announced he had won, I wanted to scream and shout like a mad man.... Japanese sensibilities held me back from doing so.
Anyhow, I rushed to the nearest booze shop to buy Champagne. I couldn't help but mention Obama to the woman behind the counter. In response, she asked me if he had won, and started jumping and screaming when I informed her he had. She then high-fived me.... Very, very un-Japanese, but beautiful! Let the good times roll!!!! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:18 PM
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Why do you think it went so badly for McCain.Was it that he was the wrong choice, was it Palin, was it bad advice,was it that he is ( in many peoples minds) is still too much like George Bush..?
or a combination of all of the above? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:35 PM
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| Harry_Mudd wrote: | | ... and I bloody know Obama is going to be a legend! |
What a completely immature and emotional dupe. You want to put
his face on Mt. Rushmore and he hasn't done a thing yet. You
are the definition of the word "sheeple"...
Honeymoons don't last forever. The world is still a dangerous place
and you are all setting yourself up for disappointment  |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:56 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | You
are the definition of the word "sheeple"... |
Look who's talking. Just another conservitive who didn't get his way. Talk about sheep and following someone down the wrong path... |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:57 PM
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1. The negative campaign backfired
2. Not vetting Sarah Palin. She is a lightweight who alienated a lot of people including pro-choicers and gay rights. Her gun toting demeanor didn't sit well with a lot of anti gun people and her own personal situations with the clothing budget, her ex brother in law and her own children were magnified.
3. Bush. Very difficult to be a Republican when the current president has a mere 20% approval rating.
4. Finances. McCain fell behind very early in fundraising.
5. Age and health. There were many who felt McCain's age and health were impediments.
6. Cindy McCain. Her presence, or lack thereof, didn't help. The heiress tag, along with her cool demeanor didn't foster any warm and fuzzy feelings.
7. The wars. Unpopular.
8. The economy. In the tank.
9. Other factors such as not being as photogenic as Obama.
10. Mistakes. The non appearance on a certain talk show, the debate, and, finally, the SNL appearance all seemed to added up negatively.
However, in my opinion, the selection of Sarah Palin was hastily made and compared to Hillary Clinton, her inadequacies were magnified. (Thank you Tina Fey.)
| britstarfan wrote: | Why do you think it went so badly for McCain.Was it that he was the wrong choice, was it Palin, was it bad advice,was it that he is ( in many peoples minds) is still too much like George Bush..?
or a combination of all of the above? |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:57 PM
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| Batman wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | You
are the definition of the word "sheeple"... |
Look who's talking. Just another conservitive who didn't get his way. Talk about sheep and following someone down the wrong path... |
Conservative 
and read the threads before you pop-off |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 04:58 PM
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| Gornman wrote: | | Harry_Mudd wrote: | | ... and I bloody know Obama is going to be a legend! |
What a completely immature and emotional dupe. You want to put
his face on Mt. Rushmore and he hasn't done a thing yet. You
are the definition of the word "sheeple"...
Honeymoons don't last forever. The world is still a dangerous place
and you are all setting yourself up for disappointment |
Attack the idea not the person, Gornman.
Take a leaf out of McCain's book and accept defeat with dignity and poise. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:01 PM
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| greenchick wrote: | | Gornman wrote: | | Harry_Mudd wrote: | | ... and I bloody know Obama is going to be a legend! |
What a completely immature and emotional dupe. You want to put
his face on Mt. Rushmore and he hasn't done a thing yet. You
are the definition of the word "sheeple"...
Honeymoons don't last forever. The world is still a dangerous place
and you are all setting yourself up for disappointment |
Attack the idea not the person, Gornman.
Take a leaf out of McCain's book and accept defeat with dignity and poise. |
GC, I accepted defeat days ago.
All I'm saying now is ...be real. You are all acting like you've just
seen the Beatles for the first time. Come back to Earth. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:06 PM
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Leave me alone, I'm having my Kennedy moment!!
Actually, it's you that's out of step, the whole world is celebrating! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:22 PM
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well, I'm not celebrating... but I am relieved and satisfied that our neighbours to the south can now move forward. It's been a long 22 months.
As a Canadian, our elections tend to be called, held, and over in usually 3 months or less. 22 months seems like an eternity in comparison - a marathon of sorts with the last man standing.
Now, our Premier of Quebec just anounced a Dec. 8th election. As always, it's another opportunity for the Separatists (aka Parti Quebecois) to try and divide our nation.
Fortunately, I only need to endure 5 weeks of their cries for independence and that Premier Charest will prevail with a majority government this time.
| greenchick wrote: | Leave me alone, I'm having my Kennedy moment!!
Actually, it's you that's out of step, the whole world is celebrating! |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:29 PM
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| Debb wrote: | well, I'm not celebrating... but I am relieved and satisfied that our neighbours to the south can now move forward. It's been a long 22 months.
As a Canadian, our elections tend to be called, held, and over in usually 3 months or less. 22 months seems like an eternity in comparison - a marathon of sorts with the last man standing.
Now, our Premier of Quebec just anounced a Dec. 8th election. As always, it's another opportunity for the Separatists (aka Parti Quebecois) to try and divide our nation.
Fortunately, I only need to endure 5 weeks of their cries for independence and that Premier Charest will prevail with a majority government this time.
| greenchick wrote: | Leave me alone, I'm having my Kennedy moment!!
Actually, it's you that's out of step, the whole world is celebrating! |
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Kennedy wasn't perfect either.
The USA I think has more pomp and circumstance regarding how the elections are run...waste too much money in my opinion.
And Debb, I hope my daughter Lynda can live in your country without too many problems that she can't deal with and then may have to move back to the good ole USA with her two children and her husband in tow.  |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:30 PM
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| greenchick wrote: |
Actually, it's you that's out of step, |
I'm proud to do that sometimes |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 05:33 PM
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Unless she's in the Province of Quebec, the only hardship she ought to have is the 6 AM shovelling out of the car... she'll be fine. It's a cold country but we all have warm hearts and hands.
Just remember to tell her... hats and mittens. Don't leave home without 'em.
| Mirizor wrote: | | Debb wrote: | well, I'm not celebrating... but I am relieved and satisfied that our neighbours to the south can now move forward. It's been a long 22 months.
As a Canadian, our elections tend to be called, held, and over in usually 3 months or less. 22 months seems like an eternity in comparison - a marathon of sorts with the last man standing.
Now, our Premier of Quebec just anounced a Dec. 8th election. As always, it's another opportunity for the Separatists (aka Parti Quebecois) to try and divide our nation.
Fortunately, I only need to endure 5 weeks of their cries for independence and that Premier Charest will prevail with a majority government this time.
| greenchick wrote: | Leave me alone, I'm having my Kennedy moment!!
Actually, it's you that's out of step, the whole world is celebrating! |
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Kennedy wasn't perfect either.
The USA I think has more pomp and circumstance regarding how the elections are run...waste too much money in my opinion.
And Debb, I hope my daughter Lynda can live in your country without too many problems that she can't deal with and then may have to move back to the good ole USA with her two children and her husband in tow. |
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| Debb wrote: | Unless she's in the Province of Quebec, the only hardship she ought to have is the 6 AM shovelling out of the car... she'll be fine. It's a cold country but we all have warm hearts and hands.
Just remember to tell her... hats and mittens. Don't leave home without 'em.
| Mirizor wrote: | | Debb wrote: | well, I'm not celebrating... but I am relieved and satisfied that our neighbours to the south can now move forward. It's been a long 22 months.
As a Canadian, our elections tend to be called, held, and over in usually 3 months or less. 22 months seems like an eternity in comparison - a marathon of sorts with the last man standing.
Now, our Premier of Quebec just anounced a Dec. 8th election. As always, it's another opportunity for the Separatists (aka Parti Quebecois) to try and divide our nation.
Fortunately, I only need to endure 5 weeks of their cries for independence and that Premier Charest will prevail with a majority government this time.
| greenchick wrote: | Leave me alone, I'm having my Kennedy moment!!
Actually, it's you that's out of step, the whole world is celebrating! |
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Kennedy wasn't perfect either.
The USA I think has more pomp and circumstance regarding how the elections are run...waste too much money in my opinion.
And Debb, I hope my daughter Lynda can live in your country without too many problems that she can't deal with and then may have to move back to the good ole USA with her two children and her husband in tow. |
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Lynda lives in Ontario. I love visiting her there. I just wish distance wasn't the issue....  |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2008 - 07:36 PM
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| Harry_Mudd wrote: | | Debb wrote: |
Obama displays all the traits of a man destined to be a great President. |
In total agreement! I knew Bush would be a bad president... and I bloody know Obama is going to be a legend! |
and I think that you are going to look damn silly 6 months from now having said that. |
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