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| rdb wrote: | Cat, this site is one of the best sources I could recommend (and Paul, if posting it is a violation of the laws, I apologize): http://www.talk2action.org
The people there document their statements- either with links to the specific website, a link to a video or audio recording, or similar.
I walked out of the denomination she "belonged to" (it appears she's trying to hide her connections) 26 years ago and I'm still working on the damage and brainwashing they put me through. |
Links are always encouraged. Better than reposting information that other sites took time to format and write. |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 07:24 AM
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by driving out a witch, has now been picked up by press around the world including the London Times and Countdown by Keith Olbermann.
Posting a leftist website is proof of nothing but, it's a leftist website.
Olbermann?......... nuff said |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 08:14 AM
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| Excuse me....according to you, I'm the closed minded one around here!! Just because information comes from a different viewpoint from you own does not automatically invalidate everything it has to say! |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 08:28 AM
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| greenchick wrote: | | Excuse me....according to you, I'm the closed minded one around here!! |
Couldn't have said it better myself....  |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 05:15 PM
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Location: standing here shaking my head in disbelief....
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| rdb wrote: | Cat, this site is one of the best sources I could recommend (and Paul, if posting it is a violation of the laws, I apologize): http://www.talk2action.org
The people there document their statements- either with links to the specific website, a link to a video or audio recording, or similar.
I walked out of the denomination she "belonged to" (it appears she's trying to hide her connections) 26 years ago and I'm still working on the damage and brainwashing they put me through. |
I didn't get through the entire article yet, (sorry, not enough sleep the last few nights, and I'm having trouble waking up this morning  ), but are there any links that show that Palin herself directly believes this doctrine? If not, then it is sort of boiling down to the same thing that happened with Obama and his church, with a sort of guilt by association assumption.
When I was young, I belonged to a church that held some strange doctrines that I could not adhere to. They completely stayed out of politics, but they did have some beliefs which I did not believe to be scriptural. But, although I belonged for some time, and much of my extended family still does, I don't think it would be reasonable to hold me responsible for their beliefs. Hope that makes sense, again, not enough sleep to keep the old eyelids from trying to close this morning.  |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 06:37 PM
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A similar Conspiracy I thought of since last year: "They" knock of the new Democratic Pres. and the Dem. VP gets Presidency by default.
I believe I'm not the only one who has thought of this... |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2008 - 07:20 PM
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Location: I destroy my enemy when I make him my friend.--Abraham Lincoln
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| Cat wrote: | | rdb wrote: | Cat, this site is one of the best sources I could recommend (and Paul, if posting it is a violation of the laws, I apologize): http://www.talk2action.org
The people there document their statements- either with links to the specific website, a link to a video or audio recording, or similar.
I walked out of the denomination she "belonged to" (it appears she's trying to hide her connections) 26 years ago and I'm still working on the damage and brainwashing they put me through. |
I didn't get through the entire article yet, (sorry, not enough sleep the last few nights, and I'm having trouble waking up this morning ), but are there any links that show that Palin herself directly believes this doctrine? If not, then it is sort of boiling down to the same thing that happened with Obama and his church, with a sort of guilt by association assumption.
When I was young, I belonged to a church that held some strange doctrines that I could not adhere to. They completely stayed out of politics, but they did have some beliefs which I did not believe to be scriptural. But, although I belonged for some time, and much of my extended family still does, I don't think it would be reasonable to hold me responsible for their beliefs. Hope that makes sense, again, not enough sleep to keep the old eyelids from trying to close this morning. |
I can see your point Cat. I have also seen signs of some of those churches, whose views favor bringing about a huge war, rallying around Palin. And just like the tabloid reporters who never seem to get their facts straight, many church members are projecting their own agenda onto Palin (warranted or not). If this is allowed to escalate, it could very well bring about a form a "think tank" mentality that, similarily brought about the Spanish Inquisition, Hitler's rampage, and the attempted extermination of countless peoples throughout history, simply because one group saw the other group as a threat or didn't see them as fellow humans. (That is still going on today in some countries.... we just rarely hear about in the news)
It has become serious enough that some of those who fear this happening would consider seeking asylum in countries where this sort of belief system is not allowed, rather then to fall into the destructive forces of violence.
Side note: Unfortunately, history is filled with events brought about by some religious and political leaders who have tried to take short cuts by forcing outward changes too quickly, rather then guiding their people to internalize the basic spiritual teachings that would bring about the inward changes in each individual and eventually the community and surrounding communities.
The one thing I am thankful for though, is the fact that we can have these discussions, agree and disagree with each other, and not have some government official come down and pulverize us.
(of course, I am sure that Paul is standing by with a big water hose) |
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| SMB wrote: | | Cat wrote: | | rdb wrote: | Cat, this site is one of the best sources I could recommend (and Paul, if posting it is a violation of the laws, I apologize): http://www.talk2action.org
The people there document their statements- either with links to the specific website, a link to a video or audio recording, or similar.
I walked out of the denomination she "belonged to" (it appears she's trying to hide her connections) 26 years ago and I'm still working on the damage and brainwashing they put me through. |
I didn't get through the entire article yet, (sorry, not enough sleep the last few nights, and I'm having trouble waking up this morning ), but are there any links that show that Palin herself directly believes this doctrine? If not, then it is sort of boiling down to the same thing that happened with Obama and his church, with a sort of guilt by association assumption.
When I was young, I belonged to a church that held some strange doctrines that I could not adhere to. They completely stayed out of politics, but they did have some beliefs which I did not believe to be scriptural. But, although I belonged for some time, and much of my extended family still does, I don't think it would be reasonable to hold me responsible for their beliefs. Hope that makes sense, again, not enough sleep to keep the old eyelids from trying to close this morning. |
I can see your point Cat. I have also seen signs of some of those churches, whose views favor bringing about a huge war, rallying around Palin. And just like the tabloid reporters who never seem to get their facts straight, many church members are projecting their own agenda onto Palin (warranted or not). If this is allowed to escalate, it could very well bring about a form a "think tank" mentality that, similarily brought about the Spanish Inquisition, Hitler's rampage, and the attempted extermination of countless peoples throughout history, simply because one group saw the other group as a threat or didn't see them as fellow humans. (That is still going on today in some countries.... we just rarely hear about in the news)
It has become serious enough that some of those who fear this happening would consider seeking asylum in countries where this sort of belief system is not allowed, rather then to fall into the destructive forces of violence.
Side note: Unfortunately, history is filled with events brought about by some religious and political leaders who have tried to take short cuts by forcing outward changes too quickly, rather then guiding their people to internalize the basic spiritual teachings that would bring about the inward changes in each individual and eventually the community and surrounding communities.
The one thing I am thankful for though, is the fact that we can have these discussions, agree and disagree with each other, and not have some government official come down and pulverize us.
(of course, I am sure that Paul is standing by with a big water hose) |
I showed my husband that website Sue. His opinion is that this person has ideas that border on paranoia. Anyone can document their ideas, show their 'proof' on the web. It takes true discernment to take the facts presented, glean through them and make your own judgment call. |
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Posted: Sep 23, 2008 - 12:18 AM
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| Tina wrote: | | I wish it were true! |
Please, Hillary doesn't want Obama to win. You can tell by her eyes and body language. She thinks of McCain wins she'll have another shot in four years. Besides, the Clinton's are such scum that I wouldn't put it past her to have Obama assasinated if she was the VP so she could be president. |
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Posted: Sep 23, 2008 - 12:22 AM
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Please, Hillary doesn't want Obama to win. You can tell by her eyes and body language. She thinks of McCain wins she'll have another shot in four years. Besides, the Clinton's are such scum that I wouldn't put it past her to have Obama assasinated if she was the VP so she could be president. |
Enough with the sugar coating Jami and tell us what
you really think....lol... |
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Location: I destroy my enemy when I make him my friend.--Abraham Lincoln
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| Mirizor wrote: | | I showed my husband that website Sue. His opinion is that this person has ideas that border on paranoia. Anyone can document their ideas, show their 'proof' on the web. It takes true discernment to take the facts presented, glean through them and make your own judgment call. |
People who have experienced discrimination and threat of annilalation have good cause to be a bit paranoid. But, you are correct about gathering facts.
I would not be a good Sociologist if I did not look at issues from all sides before making any sort of conclusion about an issue or a person. I certainly would not blindly follow someone's word, even if they were a minister, highly respected citizen, or even a celebrity. |
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| ...or EVEN a celebrity! Like your sarcasm! Love the way celebrities feel they can pronounce on any subject just cos they've appeared in a film or TV series. Also love the way they insist they are "just normal people"...oh really? We always thought your poo smelt of vanilla ice cream! |
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| greenchick wrote: | | ...or EVEN a celebrity! Like your sarcasm! Love the way celebrities feel they can pronounce on any subject just cos they've appeared in a film or TV series. Also love the way they insist they are "just normal people"...oh really? We always thought your poo smelt of vanilla ice cream! |
She's human, is it possible?  |
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| greenchick wrote: | | ...or EVEN a celebrity! Like your sarcasm! Love the way celebrities feel they can pronounce on any subject just cos they've appeared in a film or TV series. Also love the way they insist they are "just normal people"...oh really? We always thought your poo smelt of vanilla ice cream! |
I still get a laugh at some politicians in the past commenting about Murphy Brown (not Candice the actress, but her TV character), and later in some episode have Murphy Brown respond to the politician. A sign of a mental break down and the inability to distinguish reality from make-believe. This is becoming a real problem in this country.
But then, what does one expect? We live in a world where someone thinks that it is perfectly sane to take a perfectly good pair of bluejeans out and shoot holes in them. 
Personally, I think that any politician that has to rely of Hollywood to help boost their image, may not be strong enough to lead a country. If they don't have enough UMPH in themselves to draw the people by offering real and doable solutions, then I am afraid, they are little more than actor-wannabees, looking for attention by trying to ACT like a leader.
What we need are people who ARE leaders, not just wannabees who ACT like leaders. |
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| SMB wrote: | | greenchick wrote: | | ...or EVEN a celebrity! Like your sarcasm! Love the way celebrities feel they can pronounce on any subject just cos they've appeared in a film or TV series. Also love the way they insist they are "just normal people"...oh really? We always thought your poo smelt of vanilla ice cream! |
I still get a laugh at some politicians in the past commenting about Murphy Brown (not Candice the actress, but her TV character), and later in some episode have Murphy Brown respond to the politician. A sign of a mental break down and the inability to distinguish reality from make-believe. This is becoming a real problem in this country.
But then, what does one expect? We live in a world where someone thinks that it is perfectly sane to take a perfectly good pair of bluejeans out and shoot holes in them.
Personally, I think that any politician that has to rely of Hollywood to help boost their image, may not be strong enough to lead a country. If they don't have enough UMPH in themselves to draw the people by offering real and doable solutions, then I am afraid, they are little more than actor-wannabees, looking for attention by trying to ACT like a leader.
What we need are people who ARE leaders, not just wannabees who ACT like leaders. |
Are there really that many differences between actors and politicians? |
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