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Post subject: Another controversial topic
 Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 06:33 PM
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Children 'should see' Holocaust film
The makers of a new movie offering a child's perspective on the Holocaust are encouraging parents to let their children see it. The film is based on John Boyne's best-selling book, published in 2006
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas has been rated 12A by the British Board of Film Classification for its "scenes of holocaust threat and horror".
As such the film is considered suitable for viewers aged 12 and over, though younger children may be admitted if they are accompanied by an adult. "I think 12A is an ideal certificate," says its director Mark Herman. "You're never too young to learn about the idiocy of racism and the folly of prejudice."
Based on the novel by Irish author John Boyne, the film (which is a BBC co-production) tells of the friendship that develops between Bruno, the eight-year-old son of a concentration camp commandant, and Shmuel, a Jewish boy who is imprisoned inside.
According to Herman, the drama offers young children "an easy first step towards learning about that horrible time in our history".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7610794.stm
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Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 07:23 PM
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Location: I destroy my enemy when I make him my friend.--Abraham Lincoln
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It would be good to tell the story from both sides. Just as young children today, in some countries, are forceably removed from their homes and forced into military life, Hilter formed much of his army by taking infants from their homes and raising them to become walking killing machines. Am I defending them? Perhaps I am. In many ways children on both sides of the war were exploited and are in much need of healing.
I would hope that any film about the Holocaust or any tragic event in our history would, not only, show the horrors of it all, but would also offer some possible solutions that would bring about healing and prevent it from happening again. Showing a film to encourage the hatred or prejudices to continue will only bring about more tragedies in the future.
One of my favorite documentaries about WWII and the Holocaust show two soldiers who fought on opposite sides of each other (now old men) walking together on the grounds of an old battle sight. |
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Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 08:18 PM
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| HOW DOES ONE LEARN IF THEY DON'T FACE THE TRUTH ? |
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Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 09:39 PM
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Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 10:46 PM
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I don't see that this is a controversial subject. The Holocaust is a part of our history and as such should be part of schools history curriculum. Likewise children should be allowed to see this film only if the film contains no inappropriate scenes.
I can see why people might have problems with it but not me. |
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Posted: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:33 PM
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| Exactly. I don't see this as controversial at all. |
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Posted: Sep 13, 2008 - 01:52 AM
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For decades I kept watching Simon Wiesenthal and his
"never forget" efforts.
My reaction was..."who could forget that?...there were
pictures, tapes, eye witnesses...
After watching the recent "Holocaust deniers"(exp:current leader of Iran)
I now understand his efforts.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2008 - 04:37 PM
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Location: standing here shaking my head in disbelief....
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| Yes, kids should see it. Providing there are no graphic images, I don't see why every kid couldn't see it. |
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Posted: Sep 13, 2008 - 08:20 PM
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| Cat wrote: | | Yes, kids should see it. Providing there are no graphic images, I don't see why every kid couldn't see it. |
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas has been rated 12A by the British Board of Film Classification for its "scenes of holocaust threat and horror".
Of course i doubt the film makers could show in graphic detail, what the real horrors of the death camps,actually were, and get away with having a 12a certificate.I think maybe parents could be worried, that because the story focuses on children, and the climax of the movie is downbeat,that it could be upsetting, for kids
Also as it may offend Muslims..?
Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government backed study has revealed.
It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques.
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Posted: Sep 13, 2008 - 09:12 PM
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| A loud and resounding YES |
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Posted: Sep 14, 2008 - 12:40 AM
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| My son has studied History at school and at uni and his main complaint is how hard it is to get away from the Nazis. it sometimes seems the whole curriculum is based around the defeat of the Nazis, so i don't see that your complaint holds true. He longed to study different periods, but back they always went to the Nazis and the Holocaust. |
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Posted: Sep 14, 2008 - 09:54 AM
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| greenchick wrote: | | My son has studied History at school and at uni and his main complaint is how hard it is to get away from the Nazis. it sometimes seems the whole curriculum is based around the defeat of the Nazis, so i don't see that your complaint holds true. He longed to study different periods, but back they always went to the Nazis and the Holocaust. |
How times change, when i was doing my History A level,(almost 20 years ago) it was "proper" history.Covering historic events over 200-300 years and more.I was reading a local college/university prospectus, a couple of weeks ago,and i noticed that it's now 'Modern history',classed as events from 1945 up to 2005.So no Cromwell,Henry The 8th,Elisabeth the First, Drake,Stephenson,Brunell,and all the others that lived and made history before 1945.
Thats a lot of history ( and heritage) for people to not learn about,and to lose. |
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Posted: Sep 14, 2008 - 06:02 PM
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I took a history course in school for my BA, and they seem to consider (for the US) recent history starting just before the beginning of the 20th century. Early history went from the Spanish explorations to just after the end of reconstruction.
It actually makes sense, in a way.
There are several holocausts that should be taught- including Hitler's actions against the Jews. There is also the Armenian holocaust, and of course, the actions of the US against Native Americans, and the enslavement of Africans.
It can happen again. Indeed, it IS happening in places like Darfur.
As far as the holocaust deniers- this rather reminds me of the people who don't want evolution taught. They both don't want to hear the truth. |
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