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 Posted: May 20, 2008 - 06:53 PM
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It suprises me the US calls Burma Myanmar and not Burma like here in Australia and in the UK.
The difference is due to the name change coming from the current Regime in the Country, Australia does not recognise them so even at the highest levels in Government we still refer to the Country as Burma, it is beleved calling it Myanmar legitimises the regime.
I believe the UK is much the same on this one.
Clearly the actions of the Military leaders over the past few weeks as supported this attitude |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 09:17 PM
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:11 PM
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| As someone who has visited the country in question several times, I find myself switching between both names. When I talk politics, it is always Burma. But, when I talk with friends in and out of the country, I sometimes use Myanmar, to avoid confusion. |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:15 PM
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I don't care. Except that it's way easier to say Burmese than Myanmarites (or Myanmaresers?)
Hey Harry, what's the right way to refer to people from Myanmar?
| Harry_Mudd wrote: | | As someone who has visited the country in question several times, I find myself switching between both names. When I talk politics, it is always Burma. But, when I talk with friends in and out of the country, I sometimes use Myanmar, to avoid confusion. |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:17 PM
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I was just going to mention that but you beat me to it, Harry.  I've noticed that also when you speak of Burma, it's not just for political reasons but for clarification. Which we do appreciate. Some of us, still even to this day don't pay attention to name switches of countries and call them by their origional names. |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:24 PM
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| Cat wrote: | | And your point is?? |
Good question. Judging from the previous topic about how the US should run their elections (imitating Aussie's much superior way, of course) and now this petty jab concerning semantics, I think I'm detecting an anti-yank pattern. Guess the best bet is to take the high road. But I wonder how some people would like to see us busting on their country. I'm sure it would never be a 2-way street!! |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:36 PM
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| Debb wrote: | I don't care. Except that it's way easier to say Burmese than Myanmarites (or Myanmaresers?)
Hey Harry, what's the right way to refer to people from Myanmar?
| Harry_Mudd wrote: | | As someone who has visited the country in question several times, I find myself switching between both names. When I talk politics, it is always Burma. But, when I talk with friends in and out of the country, I sometimes use Myanmar, to avoid confusion. |
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Well, it seems to be "Myanmarese"... BUT, I always call them "Burmese", just because it rolls off the tongue better. In fact, Burma consists of many ethnic groups, and the "Bamar" are the predominant group. The language they speak is also called "Bamar". The name "Burma" is a colonial interpretation; that's why the Myanmar junta decided to change the name. However, since they are NOT the elected rulers, many countries refuse to accept their enforced changes. |
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Posted: May 20, 2008 - 10:44 PM
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| If the British Empire re-named the country "Burma", then what's it's origional name? Is Myanmar it's origional name? Or is it something completely different? |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 06:04 AM
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| Johnny_Turbo wrote: | | Cat wrote: | | And your point is?? |
Good question. Judging from the previous topic about how the US should run their elections (imitating Aussie's much superior way, of course) and now this petty jab concerning semantics, I think I'm detecting an anti-yank pattern. Guess the best bet is to take the high road. But I wonder how some people would like to see us busting on their country. I'm sure it would never be a 2-way street!! |
Not at all, remember my sister is an American resident and my holiday this year is in the US, I was simply raising this as up until recently I had hardly heard Burma refered to as Myanmar. The question of the two names was put to our forign minister recently and he answered as above.
I was curious why different countries take different courses on such things, Burma was renamed about 20 years ago I believe, its taken a very long time for the change to flow through.
Myanmar sounds far more traditional than Burma I would love to know if it is a historic name or a recent one.
Johnny you have to remember the US is very influential around the world so people from other countries are entitled to be interested in whats happening after all we do live in the CNN, Fox News world. Choices made in the US effect the prices I pay here for goods and services through trade freedom or barriers and oil prices due to the climate in the middle east.
Don't view an oppinion as an anti American trend, its nothing of the sort, Australia while very different to the US is still one of its closest friends. |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 04:08 PM
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Burma / Myanmar again refuses US Aid, what a disgrace, how can anyone turn down assistance from a Country with so much capacity to do good for their people.
Maybe the US should now call them Burma to protest passivley. Its beyond belief such people remain in power isn't it, poor people, I see the kids starving on TV and it breaks my heart but how many people are not able to donate due to the fear the funds or goods will just be stolen by the Government there.
I saw that a water purification plant arrived and the Army took it for themselves and they have banned the importation of communications euipment saying the UN has to buy it from them at five times its value.
Maybe we can pretend they have WMD, I for one would agree |
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Posted: May 21, 2008 - 08:54 PM
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| I managed to chat online with my monk friend in Yangon, yesterday. Whilst he speaks pretty good English, his writing skills are not good, so it is always difficult to communicate effectively. Anyway, from what I could decipher, he has a serious problem with his stomach, because there is no good water or food to eat in the city. If this is the case in Yangon, I cannot imagine what it is like in the delta. |
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Posted: May 22, 2008 - 03:05 AM
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| If humanitarian aid is being refused by certain people in power, I wonder if it would help to just fly some planes or helicopters over there and drop/lower food and water in strategic places. |
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Posted: May 22, 2008 - 03:24 AM
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and they won't be intercepted in Burmese air space by military planes?
So we put the lives of rescue folk at risk?
No. Not a good idea.
| Johnny_Turbo wrote: | | If humanitarian aid is being refused by certain people in power, I wonder if it would help to just fly some planes or helicopters over there and drop/lower food and water in strategic places. |
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Posted: May 22, 2008 - 04:17 AM
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| I can honestly say that as a US citizen, born and raised, I want the US to pull it's nose out of the Myanmar/Burma situation and wait until until the Myanmar gov't does something stupid that incurs the wrath of the international community necessitating the UN in conjunction with the US going in and setting things right. I agree that there are serious things going on in that country but until the rest of the world sees it and decides to do something about it, why should it be the US's problem only? The US has already made the first step and offered the aid... and will probably continue to offer aid... if it is not taken... it is like the old saying... You can lead a blind horse to water, but you can't force it to drink. |
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Posted: May 22, 2008 - 12:54 PM
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