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22 Post subject: Women we love to hate  PostPosted: May 16, 2008 - 09:46 PM
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Whether it's Heather Mills or Kerry Katona, the celebrities that ordinary people vilify seem disproportionately to be female. Why?

In a survey this week, by Marketing magazine the respondents' top five most loved celebrities were men - Paul McCartney, Lewis Hamilton, Gary Lineker, Simon Cowell and David Beckham. Of the five most hated, the top four were women - Heather Mills, Amy Winehouse, Victoria Beckham and Kerry Katona.

Heather Mills is probably the easiest dealt with. Many people's main gripe with celebrity is that it offers those without talents a chance to find material wealth through manipulation. For the tabloid media at least, Mills fits the bill.

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From Queen of the Jungle to Tabloid Folk Devil: Kerry Katona as 'White Trash Mother'. Katona has gone from being a figure positively associated with down-to-earth qualities to lurid tabloid tales of drug use as well as drinking and smoking while pregnant.




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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7402907.stm

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Women are suppose to be nurturers. They're suppose to be supportive helpmates. When women don't do what they're suppose to then it's easy to hate them. Men are suppose to be macho and all that. So they can get away with being jerks.

That being said - I'd like to add Hillary Clinton to the list. Especially after seeing this. Any "woman" who helps someone cover up an attempted rape isn't a woman in my book. She's just trash. A real woman would've turned her husband in.

Also Angelina Jolie - but for different reasons. I don't care how many "good works" she does. That doesn't eliminate the fact that she chased after a married man - and is known for chasing after men on set. Oh, Brad shares half the blame, but she had no buisness chasing him when she knew he had a wife.

But most hated to me isn't a woman, it's a man. Child rapist Roman Polanski.

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Post subject: Re: Women we love to hate  PostPosted: May 18, 2008 - 12:35 AM
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britstarfan wrote:
Whether it's Heather Mills or Kerry Katona, the celebrities that ordinary people vilify seem disproportionately to be female. Why?

In a survey this week, by Marketing magazine the respondents' top five most loved celebrities were men - Paul McCartney, Lewis Hamilton, Gary Lineker, Simon Cowell and David Beckham. Of the five most hated, the top four were women - Heather Mills, Amy Winehouse, Victoria Beckham and Kerry Katona.

Heather Mills is probably the easiest dealt with. Many people's main gripe with celebrity is that it offers those without talents a chance to find material wealth through manipulation. For the tabloid media at least, Mills fits the bill.

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From Queen of the Jungle to Tabloid Folk Devil: Kerry Katona as 'White Trash Mother'. Katona has gone from being a figure positively associated with down-to-earth qualities to lurid tabloid tales of drug use as well as drinking and smoking while pregnant.




thoughts?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7402907.stm



I quite like Amy Winehouse. I like her voice, not a lifestyle.
Incidentally, today I watched " La Vie en Rose" the story of the life of Edith Piath. He had a beautiful voice and much talent but her lifestyle was terrible . She drank too much.
I would hate to see Amy go the same way.

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Women are supposed to be nurturers? Who said?

Supportive helpmates... again, who said? That may have been true in "old times" but not necessarily in modern day.

i.e. (and I use myself as an example. I work full time at an office while my husband stays home, he sees his clients in the evening or weekends - he's a real estate agent and mortgage broker).



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Women are suppose to be nurturers. They're suppose to be supportive helpmates. When women don't do what they're suppose to then it's easy to hate them. Men are suppose to be macho and all that. So they can get away with being jerks.

That being said - I'd like to add Hillary Clinton to the list. Especially after seeing this. Any "woman" who helps someone cover up an attempted rape isn't a woman in my book. She's just trash. A real woman would've turned her husband in.

Also Angelina Jolie - but for different reasons. I don't care how many "good works" she does. That doesn't eliminate the fact that she chased after a married man - and is known for chasing after men on set. Oh, Brad shares half the blame, but she had no buisness chasing him when she knew he had a wife.

But most hated to me isn't a woman, it's a man. Child rapist Roman Polanski.

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Debb wrote:
Women are supposed to be nurturers? Who said?

Supportive helpmates... again, who said? That may have been true in "old times" but not necessarily in modern day.

i.e. (and I use myself as an example. I work full time at an office while my husband stays home, he sees his clients in the evening or weekends - he's a real estate agent and mortgage broker).



Women were nurturers and helpmates for many thousands of years before we became an "advanced" civilization and women's lib. advocates started muckin' with the works!


lol j/k No offense was intended


As we've grown as a civilization and a species, we've had to adapt to fill the proper requirements in order to fully prosper in the current world climate that we live in. H.G. Wells said it best:

"Adapt or perish, now as ever, is Nature's inexorable imperative."

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