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I'm personally sick of this story. I wish Wright would shut up, and I wish the news would stop treating this story like it matters. I don't know how Obama can distance himself from this mess any further than he has. Wright isn't running for President, Obama is! He said how much he disagrees with him in a billion ways. It seems like some people would only be satisfied if Obama got up in the middle of his sermon and decapitated him.

Wright's an insane jackass who needs a padded room, but why isn't anyone paying attention to some of the people who who have supported McCain? John Hagee, among other dumbass statements, blames Katrina on gays. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, each with a phonebook's worth of offensive vitriol, blamed 9/11 on everyone different from them and are in favor of bringing back the Crusades essentially. Nobody seems to care.

The difference is Obama denounced his guy, while McCain has accepted these endorsements (he embraced the late Falwell after calling him once an "agent of intolerance"). I don't know if McCain truly believes any of that nonsense or if he's just pandering to the insane asylum vote, but he would do good to come out against those people (he won't). The "liberal media's" love affair with McCain won't allow for this discussion to take place, and they continue to make this Wright issue so important when he is nobody and this story is a joke.

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Senator McCain Said What?
He said the pay gap between men and women isn't due to discrimination. Women just need more "education and training." Tell Senator McCain to quit making sexist statements and stop blocking a vote on fair pay for women.


..and I don't know about that Brian....birds of a feather and all that...

If a person denies they were Muslim, because they were going to a Christian Church for 20 years and they had "Great Respect" for their
Minister...and then that same Minister starts spitting Vitrol....
I'm just sayin'....

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Whether we admit to it or not, we are all judged by the company we keep.

That's what happened to Brenda Martin.





BrianS7785 wrote:
I'm personally sick of this story. I wish Wright would shut up, and I wish the news would stop treating this story like it matters. I don't know how Obama can distance himself from this mess any further than he has. Wright isn't running for President, Obama is! He said how much he disagrees with him in a billion ways. It seems like some people would only be satisfied if Obama got up in the middle of his sermon and decapitated him.

Wright's an insane jackass who needs a padded room, but why isn't anyone paying attention to some of the people who who have supported McCain? John Hagee, among other dumbass statements, blames Katrina on gays. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, each with a phonebook's worth of offensive vitriol, blamed 9/11 on everyone different from them and are in favor of bringing back the Crusades essentially. Nobody seems to care.

The difference is Obama denounced his guy, while McCain has accepted these endorsements (he embraced the late Falwell after calling him once an "agent of intolerance"). I don't know if McCain truly believes any of that nonsense or if he's just pandering to the insane asylum vote, but he would do good to come out against those people (he won't). The "liberal media's" love affair with McCain won't allow for this discussion to take place, and they continue to make this Wright issue so important when he is nobody and this story is a joke.

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Brian, this is JMO, but I think the reason that the media is not focusing more on McCain is that it's pretty much a given that he has the Republican nomination.

In Obama's case, He's still running against Senator Clinton, so people are paying more attention to what he and Hillary are saying and doing. Once one of them is chosen, I think people will start judging what that person, and McCain have said/done, etc.

And I agree with Debb, that you will be judged by the company you keep. No matter what you say afterwards, you had to have some common ground to keep you together during that time.

I don't intend to vote for Obama, based on the issues, but I have already given my reasons why on other posts. I have also stated why I wouldn't want to vote for Clinton or McCain. If people do choose to vote for any of these candidates, and they have a better reason then he/she is a good looker, their particular party, etc., then good for them.

I have considered writing in my dogs name. But, I'm pretty sure he would narrow the job opportunities down to bacon processing plants, and carpet manufacturers (you've got to have good quality rugs and carpets to drag your behind on). Neither one of these fields is of particular interest, so I'm not sure I can throw my full support behind my dog. And I wouldn't really be into smelling everyone elses behind either. Shocked

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That last sentence is so loaded with razzing possibilities. But being the good friend that I am I'll pass and leave it to some other more braver soul. Laughing Laughing Laughing Cool

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Cat wrote:
Brian, this is JMO, but I think the reason that the media is not focusing more on McCain is that it's pretty much a given that he has the Republican nomination.

In Obama's case, He's still running against Senator Clinton, so people are paying more attention to what he and Hillary are saying and doing. Once one of them is chosen, I think people will start judging what that person, and McCain have said/done, etc.

And I agree with Debb, that you will be judged by the company you keep. No matter what you say afterwards, you had to have some common ground to keep you together during that time.

I don't intend to vote for Obama, based on the issues, but I have already given my reasons why on other posts. I have also stated why I wouldn't want to vote for Clinton or McCain. If people do choose to vote for any of these candidates, and they have a better reason then he/she is a good looker, their particular party, etc., then good for them.

I have considered writing in my dogs name. But, I'm pretty sure he would narrow the job opportunities down to bacon processing plants, and carpet manufacturers (you've got to have good quality rugs and carpets to drag your behind on). Neither one of these fields is of particular interest, so I'm not sure I can throw my full support behind my dog. And I wouldn't really be into smelling everyone elses behind either. Shocked


I definitely agree that McCain being the nominee is probably why he's not getting the same attention. It's really a shame, because there's plenty to go with! Obama is in a very unpleasant situation with this, and for a little while it should be talked about. At this point, I just think after knowing the person Obama is might be enough to let this go...they'll never put ME in charge of a major news network with that attitude! Laughing I think you should go with your dog, it sounds like he has a strong platform! If not, why not write in...Bill? Cool

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I am looking forward to seeing how McCain preforms when the real race is on, he has a tendancy to ramble and get angry . People will start looking for his skeletons and by that time Obama's will be history and long forgotten.

Remember before the primaries most people had already written McCain off.

I think our six week elections are more sensible, then you can get on with Governing again. I would hold every primary on the same day and the full election three months later.

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Prediction isn't my bag because if I was good at that I'd be raking up the lottery money, but I still think Obama and Clinton are going to cancel eachother out with their lies and McCain will be the winner of the presidental race. And then he can sit in the hotseat for 4-8yrs. Cool

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OH...I Hope ,to whoever is in charge, that doesn't happen....

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Me too. We've got lousy pickings this year. Lousy pickings. Sad Sad

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Obama won Guam and as a result also won another Super Delegate, this was a suprise as Clinton got more Donations in Guam, I guess they could have been fewer but larger donations.

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Lets take a closer look at Tuesdays likely outcome, will be interesting to see how close I get (told you I like numbers)

Indiana
72 Delegates

Indiana has 45 spread out accross districts where due to the small numbers you need a vote of over 60% to win any real advantage, likely outcome is 23 Clinton and 22 Obama.

The balance is proportional to votes recieved and I believe the final vote will be 51.5% (14) to Clinton and 48.5% (13) to Obama

Total result Clinton 37 Obama 35

North Carolina

115 Delegates

Well to be honnest I havent found the delegates split rule so I will use Proportional which is most comon

Likely voting outcome is Obama 54.8% (63) and Clinton 45.2% (52)

Overall results for Tuesday

Obama 98 and Clinton 89

This will take the total count to

Obama 1840 Clinton 1695 meaning Obama will have a lead of 145 Delegates with only just over 200 delegates left in the Primaries and Caucases after Tuesday

Game Over Hillary, great effort though can't deny that

Kinda scary that an Aussie knows the Primary system this well.

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GAS TAX

Not scared that you are keeping up with the system, even if you have missed a few "in the pocket" points,....
What scares me is that AMERICANS don't Understand, or Follow, the System

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Gas Tax cuts wil make little or no difference, the Petrol Stations won't pass the whole savings on, generally only 50% because they are privatly owned and do it tough as well, the Gas company will increase the cost of fuel to offset the tax Hillary wants to mpose on them and at best you might save $0.05 a gallon. This will cost you 8 Billion in road works and projects that if completed will in itself most likely save more fuel in more efficient road systems.

Australia tried the Tax Cut thing and it made no difference.

What would help is encouraging the development of more fuel efficient cars and getting Americans out of their Pick Up Trucks and into something that makes a lot more sence. American fuel prices are not high, they have just been to low for to long, we pay twice what you do and drive a not further each year. I drive 65,000km on average each year.

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