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 Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 05:25 AM
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| Have you met Bill yet? |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 05:26 AM
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| teilanikirk wrote: | | Oh, Tom Cruise isn't so bad. I can't picture him in a Star Trek movie though. I did love him in the role of the vampire LeStat in the movie 'Interview with a Vampire'. I love the scene where hs is dancing around with the rotten corpse of a woman. He says, "There's still some life in the old lady yet." |
Have you met Bill yet? |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 05:32 AM
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Morgram wrote: Have you met Bill yet?
Not yet, Morgram. He's not going to be here until Sunday. The photo op is at 1:25 pm. I'll let you know how it goes Sunday night after the convention is over. I am so excited about meeting Bill and Leonard. I can't wait for Sunday to get here. |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 12:52 PM
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| Quote: | | Oh, Tom Cruise isn't so bad. |
Tom Cruise is monstrously irresponsible, asserting "There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance". He believes Brooke Shields' postpartum depression should've been treated with "vitamins and exercise". Listen to Cruise talk about the evils of psychiatry...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cc_wjp262RY
Cruise isn't a medical doctor nor a scientist, he just expects you to believe that his Scientology propaganda supersedes years of international research and actual patient results. His "proof": Drug abuse. This is as mindless as insisting that police departments are evil because there are cases of police abuse.
Here's a disturbing dose of reality: Scientology was indicted on 2 felony charges in the death of Lisa McPherson, a member of their so-called Church. Scientologists had removed Lisa from hospital care, because they didn't want her to be examined by a psychiatrist. Here's an excerpt from Florida's St. Petersburg Times...
On Nov. 18, 1995, church staffers took McPherson to Room 174 at the back of the hotel, turned the lights low and began to keep a "watch." They were following L. Ron Hubbard's directives for dealing with psychotic people. They did not speak to McPherson within her hearing. Their "watch" was a Scientology method intended to quiet McPherson and relieve the mental instability that became evident earlier that Nov. 18, when she disrobed at the scene of a minor car accident and told a paramedic, "I need help. I need to talk to someone."
McPherson was taken by ambulance to nearby Morton Plant Hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. But Scientologists are taught that psychiatry is harmful and strongly oppose psychiatric medicines.
Within an hour of McPherson's arrival at Morton Plant, at least eight Scientologists arrived and told a doctor it was against her religion to have a psychiatric exam. They promised to care for her 24 hours a day and signed as witnesses on the release form that allowed McPherson to leave against the doctor's advice.
She was driven to the Fort Harrison Hotel, where, instead of growing quiet, she worsened. Her experience was described in vivid detail in daily logs written by Scientologists who watched her.
McPherson babbled and banged on walls and walked like a robot. She vomited and defecated on herself. She slapped and poked and kicked Scientology staffers. She screamed at them, and tried to leave.
For days, as Scientology security guards took shifts outside McPherson's door, staffers fetched sandwiches and bananas for her. They made protein drinks. They gave her vitamins, herbal remedies, aspirin, Benadryl and doses of the prescription sedative, Chloral Hydrate. They held her down and administered these substances with a large syringe placed in McPherson's mouth, the affidavit states, "even though she was never seen by and had no patient/doctor relationship with the prescribing physician."
They got her to drink glasses of "Cal-Mag," a mixture of calcium gluconate, magnesium carbonate, cider vinegar and water that Scientologists believe is healthful.
On Dec. 5, 1995 -- the 17th day of McPherson's stay at the Fort Harrison -- her caregivers said she appeared ill and they called Dr. Minkoff, another "public" Scientologist in Clearwater who was nearing the end of his shift that evening in a New Port Richey emergency room, 24 miles away.
Minkoff, according to the affidavit, told the Scientology staff to get her to the closest hospital if she was seriously ill. Morton Plant was two minutes away.
But a Scientology supervisor feared McPherson would "end up in psych hands" there, according to a church record. The affidavit states Minkoff was told McPherson wasn't sick enough to be rushed to Morton Plant.
Minkoff agreed to see her.
McPherson was breathing heavily when a staffer carried her to a van, records say. After the 45-minute drive from downtown Clearwater, she was dead on arrival from what later was determined to be a blood clot in her left lung.
Her body was marked with bruises and abrasions. She had been diagnosed as physically healthy at Morton Plant 17 days earlier. McPherson's body weighed 108 pounds, down from estimates she normally weighed 140 to 155 pounds.
http://www.sptimes.com/TampaBay/111498/ ... ged_i.html
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 08:56 PM
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I wish Tom Cruise were mute and stuck in that chair like Captain Pike.
Then all we'd hear out of him would be one beep for yes, and two for no. |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 10:59 PM
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| ChuckD wrote: | I wish Tom Cruise were mute and stuck in that chair like Captain Pike.
Then all we'd hear out of him would be one beep for yes, and two for no. |
 good one, Chuck |
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Posted: Aug 10, 2007 - 11:17 PM
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| I am not familiar with any of Tom Cruise's personal beliefs. I just happen to have enjoyed some of his movies in the past. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2007 - 08:15 AM
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| Quote: | | I am not familiar with any of Tom Cruise's personal beliefs. |
He has a highly intolerant and unrealistic persona.
In a June 2005 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Cruise asserted that Swiss psychiatrist and founder of analytical psychology, Carl Jung, "was an editor for the Nazi papers during World War II", and that the drug methadone "was originally called Adolophine. It was named after Adolf Hitler". Research by the Entertainment Weekly staff found that these claims of "Nazi science" are just Scientology manipulative falsehoods.
See the CBS video, "Scientology -- A Question of Faith"...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkmax_ ... story_news
Every time there's a large-scale tragedy, Scientology is there to peddle its hate-based cult using the pretense of Church assistance.
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is an anti-psychiatry advocacy group established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology. After the Virginia Tech shooting, the New York Daily News noted that a pro-CCHR press release had been circulated even before the identity of the shooter was known: "Media and law enforcement must move quickly to investigate the Virginia shooter's psychiatric drug history -- a common factor amongst school shooters". The CCHR also showed up for media coverage at the Columbine High School tragedy, where shooters had gone wild because they were off their psych meds.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/r_m/2 ... me_to.html
During 9/11, Fox TV was effectively duped into displaying the Scientology hotline number. Michael Faenza, president and chief executive of the US National Mental Health Association, told the St. Petersburg Times that the hotline number was "outrageous" and said Scientology "is the last organization" emotionally vulnerable people should call. "They just leave a wake of destruction in the realm of mental health".
http://www.sptimes.com/News/091501/Worl ... otli.shtml
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Posted: Aug 11, 2007 - 01:23 PM
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| ChuckD wrote: | I wish Tom Cruise were mute and stuck in that chair like Captain Pike.
Then all we'd hear out of him would be one beep for yes, and two for no. |
Now thats what I'm talking about! |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2007 - 08:34 PM
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| ChuckD wrote: | I wish Tom Cruise were mute and stuck in that chair like Captain Pike.
Then all we'd hear out of him would be one beep for yes, and two for no. |
Have to agree with you on that one Chuck. |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 01:05 AM
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| Regardless of what Cruise says I'm not sure he would be the right choice for Star Trek -- he was okay in War of the Worlds -- just not that great -- TRexx -- I don't think that you should be talking badly about him even though I don't agree with most of what he says or believes -- this is not the site for slander -- anyone can be cast in the movie -- but I can't see him in a Star Trek uniform anyway so please don't slander him here -- just being polite |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2007 - 06:32 AM
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| Quote: | | please don't slander him |
I've posted news-article links and quotes from interviews. What you see isn't libel or slander, it's self-incrimination by Cruise and Scientology!
Scientology's ruthless "Fair Game" policy is designed to embarrass, destabilize, or even destroy anyone who opposes their "church". Anyone deemed to be an enemy of Scientology is labelled a Suppressive Person (SP). Here's what their Church doctrine says about how Scientologists are to deal with SPs: "May be deprived of property, or injured by any means" and "May be tricked, sued, or lied to, or destroyed."
Germany is among European countries that see Scientology for what it is: An unscrupulous, greedy, cult. This makes the German people a target for Scientology's insidious psychological warfare.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... cnn-topics
Cruise is a high-profile champion of Scientology and its madness. As Time notes, the German government considers the selection of Cruise to play von Stauffenberg in Valkyrie a "scandal". The Independent reports that the German Protestant Church compares Scientology to Nazism. Simply, many German people don't want a cult madman to play a national hero of theirs.
The Bridge -- A Film by Brett Hanover...
http://www.xenutv.com/bridge/index.html
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Posted: Aug 14, 2007 - 11:05 PM
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Yes it makes sense but wasn't he the guy who said that the Holocaust never happened or am I thinking of someone else? Maybe Mel Gibson
I understand your viewpoint on the Germans not wanting him to play their hero in Valkyrie -- and did you know that William Shatner and I'm assuming Star Trek are very big in Germany -- WS recently won some kind of award there for most watched actor or something like that -- and I'm not entirely sure given Cruise's history that the Germans would want him in Star Trek if he's committed such atrocities
Universal ban anyone? |
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