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Post subject: The most hilarious aspect of what has happened to Star Trek  PostPosted: Jul 22, 2007 - 08:20 PM
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In my opinion, is paramount and TNG fandom pretending (or is it feigning?) that all of Kirk`s successors, Picard, Sisko, Janeway and Archer are in the same league with him. Now that`s funny!

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Yeah, Patrick Stewart and the rest of your ilk, Bill Shatner is a friend of ours and you're no Bill Shatner! Wink

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Yeah, Patrick Stewart and the rest of your ilk, Bill Shatner is a friend of ours and you're no Bill Shatner! Wink


And none of them post here. Laughing
 
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Mirizor wrote:
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Yeah, Patrick Stewart and the rest of your ilk, Bill Shatner is a friend of ours and you're no Bill Shatner! Wink


And none of them post here. Laughing


By "none of them" I guess you mean those other Captains. They must all be too busy with their own fansites.

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ColorTelevision wrote:
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Yeah, Patrick Stewart and the rest of your ilk, Bill Shatner is a friend of ours and you're no Bill Shatner! Wink


And none of them post here. Laughing


By "none of them" I guess you mean those other Captains. They must all be too busy with their own fansites.


Could be CT. I don't visit the other Captain's sites. Cool
 
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I've just been looking at sites that deal with look-alikes for Kirk, hoping to find someone who's under the age of 35. Not that it would do any good. Who at Paramount would listen? But I did come across a Star Wars forum that had a lot of derogatory remarks about the other captains, the shows, and the movies, and maybe a little bit of respect for our captain. The leader of the forum thought that Kiefer Sutherland would be a good choice. But he's too old, therefore totally illogical. The leader thought that a reguvination of StarTrek would be good for their beloved StarWars. Makes sense. But you should hear them talk! They are nutty. Maybe worse than us if you can believe that! They make us look NORMAL! Shocked Shocked I love Star Wars, but I can only handle so much nuttiness. I'm a one forum woman Razz Cool

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I've just been looking at sites that deal with look-alikes for Kirk, hoping to find someone who's under the age of 35. Not that it would do any good. Who at Paramount would listen? But I did come across a Star Wars forum that had a lot of derogatory remarks about the other captains, the shows, and the movies, and maybe a little bit of respect for our captain. The leader of the forum thought that Kiefer Sutherland would be a good choice. But he's too old, therefore totally illogical. The leader thought that a reguvination of StarTrek would be good for their beloved StarWars. Makes sense. But you should hear them talk! They are nutty. Maybe worse than us if you can believe that! They make us look NORMAL! Shocked Shocked I love Star Wars, but I can only handle so much nuttiness. I'm a one forum woman Razz Cool


Well see but Sutherland would be a great actor to have in Star Trek. Which is why I am not a big believer in the recasting idea. I really felt like Star Trek should have been trying to do some limited run (maybe 16 episodes) shows more along the lines of Andromeda, SG-1, or Firefly. These kinds of shows, which sort of go back to Lost in Space or Land of the Giants, have been popular the last 10 years. Paramount should have kicked Berman out after Voyager. One reason I am intrigued by the new movie is that J.J. Abrams does not think in a box, he goes outside the box. That what Trek should have been doing. Heck, Gene Roddenberry was pitching a half dozen other shows while Star Trek was going on or after cancellation. Earth Final Conflict and Andromeda eventually emerged from that. I'm hoping this new film is an adventure film, kind of like Stargate. I'm tired of Klingons, Romulans, the Borg, and wars and galactic politics. That was only a portion of TOS. That content works well for a TV series, where you can ground the plot arcs into a few areas. There were many other episodes and concepts that TOS attempted but were not very convincing due to the budgets. A story like what became ST:TMP is the perfect example of one which can only be told in theaters. That is what I want to see, something galant.

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I'm probably going to get my tushy kicked for this opinion but Sutherland's talent isn't in question where I'm concerned. It's the age limit that everyone keeps harping about to keep the time line intact. If they can make him look like he's in his early 20's I'm all for it. I've admired his acting skills for a long time. Abrams wants to do a prequel and that's alright, but they need some people who are relatively young and unheard of. I also wonder if Sutherland would touch a Trek film with a ten ft. pole. First of all he's a pretty well known actor and Trek tends to make people shy away from it because of all of the commercialization and campyness of it. No one really wants to take it seriously anymore, except die-hard sci-fi fans or Trekkies. There's been too much shark jumping with this franchise for a lot of movie stars to want to sign on. They've got to be die-hard fans themselves. Or they like alot of money, who doesn't. If Abrams can pull off a good prequel, then he'll be a god of the Trek movie industry as far as I'm concerned. I'm tired of TNG and I'm wanting something along the lines of the other shows you were describing, too. I agree with you, Grizzlor. Something galant.

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angel wrote:
I'm probably going to get my tushy kicked for this opinion but Sutherland's talent isn't in question where I'm concerned. It's the age limit that everyone keeps harping about to keep the time line intact. If they can make him look like he's in his early 20's I'm all for it. I've admired his acting skills for a long time. Abrams wants to do a prequel and that's alright, but they need some people who are relatively young and unheard of. I also wonder if Sutherland would touch a Trek film with a ten ft. pole. First of all he's a pretty well known actor and Trek tends to make people shy away from it because of all of the commercialization and campyness of it. No one really wants to take it seriously anymore, except die-hard sci-fi fans or Trekkies. There's been too much shark jumping with this franchise for a lot of movie stars to want to sign on. They've got to be die-hard fans themselves. Or they like alot of money, who doesn't. If Abrams can pull off a good prequel, then he'll be a god of the Trek movie industry as far as I'm concerned. I'm tired of TNG and I'm wanting something along the lines of the other shows you were describing, too. I agree with you, Grizzlor. Something galant.


Thanks for posting that so well - saved me a-lot of typing Smile
 
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I'm probably going to get my tushy kicked for this opinion but Sutherland's talent isn't in question where I'm concerned. It's the age limit that everyone keeps harping about to keep the time line intact. If they can make him look like he's in his early 20's I'm all for it. I've admired his acting skills for a long time. Abrams wants to do a prequel and that's alright, but they need some people who are relatively young and unheard of. I also wonder if Sutherland would touch a Trek film with a ten ft. pole. First of all he's a pretty well known actor and Trek tends to make people shy away from it because of all of the commercialization and campyness of it. No one really wants to take it seriously anymore, except die-hard sci-fi fans or Trekkies. There's been too much shark jumping with this franchise for a lot of movie stars to want to sign on. They've got to be die-hard fans themselves. Or they like alot of money, who doesn't. If Abrams can pull off a good prequel, then he'll be a god of the Trek movie industry as far as I'm concerned. I'm tired of TNG and I'm wanting something along the lines of the other shows you were describing, too. I agree with you, Grizzlor. Something galant.


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