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Post subject: On what sites was everyone talking trash about WS?
 Posted: Jul 21, 2007 - 09:58 PM
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| On which sites were people talking trash about WS? I want to go defend him! Nobody talks smack about my man! lol |
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Posted: Jul 21, 2007 - 10:45 PM
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I wouldn't know. This is the only ST related site that I am active on.
I don't go to the bubblegum sites. |
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Posted: Jul 21, 2007 - 11:17 PM
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| SMB wrote: | I wouldn't know. This is the only ST related site that I am active on.
I don't go to the bubblegum sites. |
What's a bubblegum site, by the way?
Just wondering....I have a theory  |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 06:23 AM
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| Not much smack about Shatner personally. There are a lot of people who don't wish to see him as Kirk again. Some have good reasons, others just hate TOS and its fans. |
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Post subject: Re: On what sites was everyone talking trash about WS?
Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 09:05 AM
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| kirkscutie11728 wrote: | | On which sites were people talking trash about WS? I want to go defend him! |
Sometimes he is attacked on Trekmovie.com (people's comments) or at TrekBBS.com |
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Post subject: Re: On what sites was everyone talking trash about WS?
Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 10:12 AM
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| RobertBernardo wrote: | | kirkscutie11728 wrote: | | On which sites were people talking trash about WS? I want to go defend him! |
Sometimes he is attacked on Trekmovie.com (people's comments) or at TrekBBS.com |
Puppets of the post-tos/paramount regime. TNGers don`t like Kirk because he is a mid-20th century kind of a guy instead of a tng-era girly-man...like them. You`re damn right they don`t like Kirk. Self-examination is something that I think they would rather like to try and avoid. |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 11:18 AM
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| AquinasWI wrote: | | SMB wrote: | I wouldn't know. This is the only ST related site that I am active on.
I don't go to the bubblegum sites. |
What's a bubblegum site, by the way?
Just wondering....I have a theory |
Bubblegum means a place where mainly teeny-boppers hang out. It is not necessarily a bad place, just a place where mostly younger folks are with their own "young folks" agenda.
The reason I come here is there are plenty of "old farts" like me. OOPS!  Maybe I shouldn't have used that expression with Vito around.   |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 02:36 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | AquinasWI wrote: | | SMB wrote: | I wouldn't know. This is the only ST related site that I am active on.
I don't go to the bubblegum sites. |
What's a bubblegum site, by the way?
Just wondering....I have a theory |
Bubblegum means a place where mainly teeny-boppers hang out. It is not necessarily a bad place, just a place where mostly younger folks are with their own "young folks" agenda.
The reason I come here is there are plenty of "old farts" like me. OOPS! Maybe I shouldn't have used that expression with Vito around. |
Dang! I thought being nearly 40 wasn't considered an old fart  Guess I'll have to look up the age requirements again. Well, anyhoo, I'm young in spirit |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 02:45 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | AquinasWI wrote: | | SMB wrote: | I wouldn't know. This is the only ST related site that I am active on.
I don't go to the bubblegum sites. |
What's a bubblegum site, by the way?
Just wondering....I have a theory |
Bubblegum means a place where mainly teeny-boppers hang out. It is not necessarily a bad place, just a place where mostly younger folks are with their own "young folks" agenda.
The reason I come here is there are plenty of "old farts" like me. OOPS! Maybe I shouldn't have used that expression with Vito around. |
Hey, Daisy may resemble that remark about the "old farts". |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 02:48 PM
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 02:53 PM
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| angel wrote: | | Don't tell her that I bet she can run circles around the rest of us |
I know Daisy can. Bless her. |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 02:53 PM
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Post subject: Re: On what sites was everyone talking trash about WS?
Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 04:26 PM
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| morgram wrote: | | Puppets of the post-tos/paramount regime. TNGers don`t like Kirk because he is a mid-20th century kind of a guy instead of a tng-era girly-man...like them. You`re damn right they don`t like Kirk. Self-examination is something that I think they would rather like to try and avoid. |
Well, some of those people simply never got into TOS. They grew up with TNG, and TOS cast were out of the movies by the time they became Trek fans. Then again, I know some people who only liked DS9. Gene Roddenberry dreamed of a human race where stupid things like a TV show wouldn't cause problems. If that isn't ironic, I don't know what is! ha ha ha.
Seriously though, there is merit to saying that if this movie is to be successful, Abrams needs to shed all that could be considered "old Trek" and start fresh. There is a difference of opinion as to whether the role made the man, or the man made the role. I of course know that Shatner made Kirk. Nobody else was going to scream KAHN quite the way he did.
This is a disagreement that I think reaches well beyond Star Trek. There are people who feel that remakes and reboots are totally fine, and they enjoy it. They are the same people who adored the Star Wars prequels. These people are not the ones who helped Star Trek live for 40 years. No way. They find fault in too many areas, complain endlessly, and attack everybody else as fanboys or geeks. If it were up to them, TOS would have been rebooted 16 times by now.
It's like in art, if you were to reproduce the Mona Lisa in your own way, the artworld would laugh at you. They'd say quit mooching off a masterpiece and create your own work. Or in baseball, if you think Barry Bonds' records are genuine compared to Aaron or Maris. If you're someone like me, and feel TOS was terrific and close to perfect, wouldn't this movie only result in a disappointment? |
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 05:05 PM
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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 - 06:36 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | Maybe I should refer to us as the well-seasoned bunch.... not too young, not too old...... just right. |
A perfect definition, Sue Marie |
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