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britstarfan - Jul 12, 2008 - 11:49 AM
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Thomas Beatie was born female but had a sex-change, and was inseminated using sperm from an anonymous donor.

A camera crew followed the 34-year-old throughout the pregnancy and then for the birth of his daughter in a hospital in Bend in the US state of Oregon.

Creative director Sheldon Lazarus said it was a "controversial and unique story" which had become "one of the most sought-after" tales to film. Pregnant Man, which is being made by production company September Films, is also to be shown in the United States and Germany.

Mr Beatie grew up in Hawaii as Tracy Lagondin and was a Girl Scout, model and finalist in a teenage beauty contest. He has been married for five years to his wife, Nancy.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7488894.stm


thoughts?
angel - Jul 12, 2008 - 03:05 PM
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Didn't know that the "gentleman" had been a woman at one time. I was thinking this was something of that movie Junior. If this had been an actual male giving birth, then this would have been something to crow about. Especially if the "man" didn't have an uterus. I was thinking that it wasn't fair that the guy wouldn't have had to experience birthing pains and to my way of thinking that would be cheating. Everyone who gives birth experiences those and a man should be no different. But seeing how this "gentleman" still had some female in him left to birth a baby, he experienced the pain. All I can say is "congrats lad". Cool
Claudia - Jul 12, 2008 - 06:06 PM
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angel wrote:
Didn't know that the "gentleman" had been a woman at one time. I was thinking this was something of that movie Junior. If this had been an actual male giving birth, then this would have been something to crow about. Especially if the "man" didn't have an uterus. I was thinking that it wasn't fair that the guy wouldn't have had to experience birthing pains and to my way of thinking that would be cheating. Everyone who gives birth experiences those and a man should be no different. But seeing how this "gentleman" still had some female in him left to birth a baby, he experienced the pain. All I can say is "congrats lad". Cool


Having had both a ceasarian section birth and two normal deliveries, I still think that birth without a ceasar is preferable There is a lot to say for a pain free delivery ( ceasar), but the recovery period is so much quicker with a normal delivery. And the pain of a normal delivery is soon forgotten, especially if the birth is trouble free. With a ceasarian section the pain is after the birth in your tummy across the scar, with all the complications following major surgery like inflammation of the wound etc....just when you need all your strength and stamina to look after a new born baby.
I am glad for his sake the man could give birth through the uterus.
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angel - Jul 12, 2008 - 07:30 PM
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Claudia wrote:
angel wrote:
Didn't know that the "gentleman" had been a woman at one time. I was thinking this was something of that movie Junior. If this had been an actual male giving birth, then this would have been something to crow about. Especially if the "man" didn't have an uterus. I was thinking that it wasn't fair that the guy wouldn't have had to experience birthing pains and to my way of thinking that would be cheating. Everyone who gives birth experiences those and a man should be no different. But seeing how this "gentleman" still had some female in him left to birth a baby, he experienced the pain. All I can say is "congrats lad". Cool


Having had both a ceasarian section birth and two normal deliveries, I still think that birth without a ceasar is preferable There is a lot to say for a pain free delivery ( ceasar), but the recovery period is so much quicker with a normal delivery. And the pain of a normal delivery is soon forgotten, especially if the birth is trouble free. With a ceasarian section the pain is after the birth in your tummy across the scar, with all the complications following major surgery like inflammation of the wound etc....just when you need all your strength and stamina to look after a new born baby.
I am glad for his sake the man could give birth through the uterus.
Smile

The guy is fortunate. Cool Never had the belly cut done with my two kids. Cool It seems that doctors prescribe cesaerian way too much.
DianaG - Jul 12, 2008 - 08:33 PM
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Very Happy

Congrats to him and his wife..I hope the baby does well and isn't hounded by the press all her life and t he couple can live a private life......I am glad I had my two normaly and no c-sections. Recovery and the stitches take a long time and witha tiny baby to take care of..no thanksto a c- section!

DianaG
Tina - Jul 13, 2008 - 06:29 PM
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I saw him on Oprah several months ago. Glad all went well and he delivered a healthy baby girl!
SMB - Jul 13, 2008 - 09:23 PM
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Claudia wrote:
angel wrote:
Didn't know that the "gentleman" had been a woman at one time. I was thinking this was something of that movie Junior. If this had been an actual male giving birth, then this would have been something to crow about. Especially if the "man" didn't have an uterus. I was thinking that it wasn't fair that the guy wouldn't have had to experience birthing pains and to my way of thinking that would be cheating. Everyone who gives birth experiences those and a man should be no different. But seeing how this "gentleman" still had some female in him left to birth a baby, he experienced the pain. All I can say is "congrats lad". Cool


Having had both a ceasarian section birth and two normal deliveries, I still think that birth without a ceasar is preferable There is a lot to say for a pain free delivery ( ceasar), but the recovery period is so much quicker with a normal delivery. And the pain of a normal delivery is soon forgotten, especially if the birth is trouble free. With a ceasarian section the pain is after the birth in your tummy across the scar, with all the complications following major surgery like inflammation of the wound etc....just when you need all your strength and stamina to look after a new born baby.
I am glad for his sake the man could give birth through the uterus.
Smile


I was never able to have a child due to uterine cancer, but I do have a large scar from where the "farm" was removed. Sad The recovery time was not fun either. But at least I am cancer free now and have a battle scar to wear proudly. Cool Wink
angel - Jul 13, 2008 - 10:04 PM
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SMB wrote:

I was never able to have a child due to uterine cancer, but I do have a large scar from where the "farm" was removed. Sad The recovery time was not fun either. But at least I am cancer free now and have a battle scar to wear proudly. Cool Wink

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DianaG - Jul 13, 2008 - 11:19 PM
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Shocked

I just had a thought...I wonder if he has stretch marks like us women do after having a baby...I have hundreds of tiny shiny scars all over my lower abs from having my kids...

DianaG
SMB - Jul 14, 2008 - 04:07 AM
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angel wrote:
SMB wrote:

I was never able to have a child due to uterine cancer, but I do have a large scar from where the "farm" was removed. Sad The recovery time was not fun either. But at least I am cancer free now and have a battle scar to wear proudly. Cool Wink

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Cool



No worries. Cool Bob and I just adopted each other and grew up together. Wink That is why we decided to finish college. We were sitting and chatting one day and thought, "You know? We are at the age now that if we had had children, we would be putting them through college about now. What da heck! Let's just put ourselves through!" And that is what we are doing. Laughing Wink

Besides, there are plenty of children who can use a helping hand. That is why we like charities that help children. Wink
vampyregirl - Jul 17, 2008 - 01:36 AM
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SMB, I feel for ya!!! Just had my parts removed almost 2 years ago. I didn't have cancer, but everything was messed up in there!!!

Personally, I never wanted kids, but I think about it now and then. Moreso since the surgery. I just spoil my nieces and nephews!!! Laughing And I have 2 fuzzy children at my house--they tear up the place just as good as 2-legged kids!!!! And listen just about as good too!!!! Laughing

As for this "guy".... I hope the baby and family are doing well, but this still is not a case of a "man giving birth". Sorry, I just don't see it that way....
SMB - Jul 17, 2008 - 01:45 AM
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vampyregirl wrote:
SMB, I feel for ya!!! Just had my parts removed almost 2 years ago. I didn't have cancer, but everything was messed up in there!!!

Personally, I never wanted kids, but I think about it now and then. Moreso since the surgery. I just spoil my nieces and nephews!!! Laughing And I have 2 fuzzy children at my house--they tear up the place just as good as 2-legged kids!!!! And listen just about as good too!!!! Laughing

As for this "guy".... I hope the baby and family are doing well, but this still is not a case of a "man giving birth". Sorry, I just don't see it that way....


Yep, I have some of those four-legged younsters too. One just reached up and pulled a book out of the bookshelf. I have another one who loves to unroll the t-paper in the bathroom. Shocked Gotta love em!

As for the human variety, Bob and I have worked with youth groups in the past. It is a lot of fun. Plus, we get to mingle with young folks at the college.

Oh well, I guess I am getting us all off topic. I hope that the man's/woman's child is healthy and I hope that the media respects their privacy.
Claudia - Jul 17, 2008 - 10:21 PM
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SMB wrote:
Claudia wrote:
angel wrote:
Didn't know that the "gentleman" had been a woman at one time. I was thinking this was something of that movie Junior. If this had been an actual male giving birth, then this would have been something to crow about. Especially if the "man" didn't have an uterus. I was thinking that it wasn't fair that the guy wouldn't have had to experience birthing pains and to my way of thinking that would be cheating. Everyone who gives birth experiences those and a man should be no different. But seeing how this "gentleman" still had some female in him left to birth a baby, he experienced the pain. All I can say is "congrats lad". Cool


Having had both a ceasarian section birth and two normal deliveries, I still think that birth without a ceasar is preferable There is a lot to say for a pain free delivery ( ceasar), but the recovery period is so much quicker with a normal delivery. And the pain of a normal delivery is soon forgotten, especially if the birth is trouble free. With a ceasarian section the pain is after the birth in your tummy across the scar, with all the complications following major surgery like inflammation of the wound etc....just when you need all your strength and stamina to look after a new born baby.
I am glad for his sake the man could give birth through the uterus.
Smile


I was never able to have a child due to uterine cancer, but I do have a large scar from where the "farm" was removed. Sad The recovery time was not fun either. But at least I am cancer free now and have a battle scar to wear proudly. Cool Wink


I am sorry to read what happened to you. But I am glad you are alive and here.
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