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britstarfan - Jul 08, 2008 - 11:06 AM
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As Davros and the Daleks threaten the entire universe, the Doctor's companions join forces. But the prophecy declares that one of them will die...

lot of twists and turns in the ending of Dr Who series 4. The Stolen Earth cliff hanger with the Dr apparently mortally wounded and started re-generating, but at the last moment he transferred the regeneration energy in to his severed hand, so he stayed in his David Tennant incarnation.

Later the hand became a clone of the Dr, using dna from Donna Noble, although this clone was Human, with only one heart, and Donna became half human half Time lord, although she ends up suffering for it and has to have her mind wiped by the Doctor to prevent her from dying, so she forgets meeting the Dr and all her adventures with him. So the Dr ends the series alone again

All of the companions survive , and they all help the doctor to pilot the TARDIS back to their respective homes although there is a somewhat sad goodbye to Rose and Donna.And yes Rose finally gets her man ( after a fashion) as the clone of the Dr stays with her,after all as he tells her, he is human and will grow old, and will not regenerate and he has all the feelings and memories of the Dr and he can be the man she wants him to be, which the "real" Dr can't and he wants to be with her.Rose kisses him as the "real" Dr walks into the Tardis and leaves them both to their new life.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S4_13

Dr Who will be back in a Christmas 2008 special which heralds the return of the Cyber men.

If anyone is interested enough i might do a DVD competition where these last 2 episodes " The Stolen Earth and Journeys End" would be the prize as well as Dr Who confidential a behind the scenes programme.

BWW - Jul 08, 2008 - 04:18 PM
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I thought it was all bit congested, there was too much going on. Didn't spoil my enjoyment though. Very Happy

britstarfan - Jul 08, 2008 - 04:32 PM
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BWW wrote:

I thought it was all bit congested, there was too much going on. Didn't spoil my enjoyment though. Very Happy

Well they had to give everyone, their little bit of limelight didn't they. I Like the idea they they all ( except Jackie Tyler) got a chance to do their bit to fly the Tardis. Wink

I wonder if the new series of Torchwood will mention these Dr Who episodes?.

Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 04:45 PM
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britstarfan wrote:

Spoilers ahead

If anyone is interested enough i might do a DVD competition where these last 2 episodes " The Stolen Earth and Journeys End" would be the prize as well as Dr Who confidential a behind the scenes programme.

It all sounds quite exciting. While I hate Martha and Rose, of late the shows writing has improved greatly.
I especially liked "Blink", the Agatha Christie one and the two part "Library" . Realize that here we're behind the UK on episodes but I'd join in if I could.

angel - Jul 08, 2008 - 04:49 PM
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Last Friday I was all set to see the second part of the "Library" and they preempted it with all day episodes of the Twilight Zone! Sad

Not much of a fan of that show, sorry to say. I really was looking forward to seeing if Donna Noble got out of that talking statue thing. And it looks like this coming Friday they're going to be skipping the second installment of the "Library" and showing the next one! Surprised

I sure hope they don't screw up and have me missing the last ones! And I'm not too sure I'm all that crazy about Rose Tyler, too, but I'm glad to hear that she does get her "man" more or less. Half a loaf is better than none at all. Wink

britstarfan - Jul 08, 2008 - 04:59 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

britstarfan wrote:

You are only a few episodes behind us,by the sounds of things, and probably by the time i run the competition you would have already seen the last episodes already,Do you have the " Dr Who confidential documentary" shown there as well..?

personally i thought the next episode( for you) "Midnight" was a bit slow and dragged on a bit, not much action, but quite thought provoking and a lot of tension. Then the one after that "Turn Left" is one of those "what if" episodes, where it's all about the companion there's not much of The Doctor in it at all.

Then you are on to the biggies , the series closers,we have just seen over the last 2 weeks .

Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 05:11 PM
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britstarfan wrote:

,Do you have the " Dr Who confidential documentary" shown there as well..?

I've not heard of it nor seen it on the play list of either Sci-Fi or BBCA.

britstarfan wrote:

personally i thought the next episode( for you) "Midnight" was a bit slow and dragged on a bit, not much action, but quite thought provoking and a lot of tension. Then the one after that "Turn Left" is one of those "what if" episodes, where it's all about the companion there's not much of The Doctor in it at all.
Then you are on to the biggies , the series closers,we have just seen over the last 2 weeks .

I'll be looking this Friday and Saturday to see which episode they're showing. Thanks for the heads-up.

britstarfan - Jul 08, 2008 - 05:22 PM
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Warning Dr Who season 5 spoiler alert

The 2008 Christmas special -"Ghosts in the Machines"

The Doctor arrives in Victorian London and encounters two very different types of Cybermen.Troops of Cybermen attack a major Market place in snow covered London. The Cybus Cybermen and some diamond headed wraith-like Cybermen .They've taken over a graveyard and look set to take over the planet through stealth. But is it really the Doctor? And who's the new companion?

Possible Dr Who Special November 2008

The 7 Doctors (Suggested Title)
By Terrance Dicks
Rumoured that an extra special story will be written for the 45th anniversary to be broadcast on the 23rd November 2008 starring Sylvester McCoy, Paul McGann, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Tom Baker and David Tennant with special appearances by other guest actors (Eccleston?). Alternately this special may appear as a Children in Need extravaganza. With Peter Davison and Tom Baker confirming they would return for a cameo if asked.

No further news on this rumoured "special" at the moment. So i can't say 100% that it will happen.

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Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 05:27 PM
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I'd love to see Tom again, although he's aged which is unusual for a Time Lord. Sad

britstarfan - Jul 08, 2008 - 05:32 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

I'd love to see Tom again, although he's aged which is unusual for a Time Lord. Sad

He has said a few times, he regretted turning down a part ,in "The 5 Doctors back" in 1983. So may be he's mellowed now 25 years later.

Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 05:47 PM
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Yeah, I missed him in that too.

His EYES are still so expressive. Now I'll cross my fingers, light a candle, burn some incense and ask the universe to bring him into the episodes you've mentioned, with the MOST lines!! Razz

angel - Jul 08, 2008 - 06:00 PM
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We're getting sooo old! I remember when he was bouncing around the tv screen, just as spry as can be. I loved his Doctor so much. He had such a Harpo-esk type of acting for his character. He was THE Doctor in my younger days. Sad

Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 06:12 PM
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He IS the Doctor.

....."younger days", who got old??????? Cool

angel - Jul 08, 2008 - 06:14 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

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He IS the Doctor.

....."younger days", who got old??????? Cool

Ok, well I did and you didn't? Laughing

I'll be 41 this Aug. To me that's semi old Laughing

Spock1 - Jul 08, 2008 - 06:19 PM
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angel wrote:

Spock1 wrote:

He IS the Doctor.

....."younger days", who got old??????? Cool

Ok, well I did and you didn't? Laughing

I'll be 41 this Aug. To me that's semi old Laughing

Nah, chronological age is unavoidable; growing old is optional. Smile

angel - Jul 08, 2008 - 06:21 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

angel wrote:

Spock1 wrote:

He IS the Doctor.

....."younger days", who got old??????? Cool

Ok, well I did and you didn't? Laughing

I'll be 41 this Aug. To me that's semi old Laughing

Nah, chronological age is unavoidable; growing old is optional. Smile

How right you are, Spock1! I plan to be a teenager by the time I'm in my 60's! I just love all the Tom Baker stuff you're posting! Laughing

britstarfan - Jul 09, 2008 - 03:55 PM
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Tom Baker ponders 'Doctor Who' return

Tom Baker has admitted that he may be persuaded to make an appearance in the revived series of Doctor Who.

The 74-year-old actor, who played the fourth incarnation of the Time Lord between 1974 and 1981, told Kent News: "Perhaps I might make a guest appearance - perhaps. Providing they ask me nicely, of course."

However, Baker revealed that he has never watched the hit BBC One series on the television: "I don’t actually watch it. I didn’t even watch it when I was in it, for all sorts of reasons... but I do get messages from David Tennant and I have seen him in other things of course. He has been a huge success and I am very pleased about that."

Last year, Baker's successor Peter Davison reprised his role as the Fifth Doctor alongside the show's current star David Tennant in a special Children In Need episode entitled 'Time Crash'.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a92170 ... eturn.html

Spock1 - Jul 09, 2008 - 05:29 PM
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Hope he does. Very Happy

angel - Jul 12, 2008 - 07:43 PM
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Just saw "Midnight". I don't know why but they skipped the second part of "Library". Midnight was the most creepiest one so far. It was really scary. I was watching it and my husband complained that it was dragging when the shadow creature kept repeating everyone's words. To me that would be hell. Being stuck in a confined room with a bunch of semi-strangers who are repeating everything I say. I'd go bonkers. For that reason alone I thought this episode was well worth watching. It makes a person really jittery watching this. Cool

I was panicking watching how base and immoral these people are when they're trying to save their own skins. They'd actually shove someone out into a dangerous enviroment. That's extremely low. Sad

Spock1 - Jul 13, 2008 - 01:05 AM
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To use a famous quote; "what a dump". Confused

A huge, humungous, unending piece of tripe was "Midnight" and it served up no more acting ability than bulging eyes in the two main characters. Sad

Why they made this one after such a good streak of top thrillers, is beyond me. Rolling Eyes

Surely (and don't call me Shirley) they can do better than this. Very Happy

angel - Jul 13, 2008 - 01:32 AM
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Can I call you Betty instead? Or Max Klinger? I love it in Mash when Klinger flounces into the swamp and says "What a dump!" and Hawkeye says to BJ that it was his home decorator. My favorite Mash lines of all time. Laughing

I was impressed with the claustrophic atmosphere, the panic, and the way those two could snap off those lines simultaneously. But, my husband would have to agree with you whole heartedly, Spock1, that it was annoying episode, long drawn out. But to me, it's still creepy because that's what hell would be like to me. Laughing

Mirizor - Jul 13, 2008 - 05:06 AM
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Nice gif of the Doctor littlestar.

The next time I will keep my comments to myself.

littlestar - Jul 13, 2008 - 06:22 AM
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Spock1 - Jul 13, 2008 - 04:32 PM
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Mirizor wrote:

Ya can't please everybody when it comes to Doctor Who.

Just wait till the other episodes come out.

I've already seen 'em.

Ok, I'll wait. Rolling Eyes

britstarfan - Jul 14, 2008 - 03:50 PM
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The next story you see should be "Turn left", which isn't that bad, except for the fact it's another of those " what if" stories. There's not much of the Doctor in it, it's all about Donna , but it does recap alot of the events right from the "Runaway Bride" right throughout series 4, but from a totally different perspective . Wink

Spock1 - Jul 14, 2008 - 04:21 PM
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hmm, sounds like a "filler" or a "bridge episode". I'll watch just so I don't lose the flow of things for the ending.

britstarfan - Jul 14, 2008 - 04:54 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

hmm, sounds like a "filler" or a "bridge episode". I'll watch just so I don't lose the flow of things for the ending.

The whole series 4 Boxset is set to be released in the U.K in November.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Comp ... B0011W2IN8

I guess it should be available in the U.S around December .just as we are getting the Christmas Special, with the return of the Cybermen Wink

http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Comple ... amp;sr=8-1

Spock1 - Jul 14, 2008 - 05:03 PM
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Yikes! I thought the Cybermen were defeated last year? Confused

britstarfan - Jul 14, 2008 - 05:18 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

Yikes! I thought the Cybermen were defeated last year? Confused

If you don't mind a spoiler watch to the very end, of the closing credits for a sneak peek at the upcoming Cybermen Christmas special. Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQUKszKJ ... re=related

Spock1 - Jul 14, 2008 - 06:17 PM
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Wow. Fantastic clip and it will keep me watching just when "Midnight' seemed to doom my interest.

IYO, how far behind am I ..before I start seeing this...the clip was part 7

Thanks.

Oi! Did they say at the end of the clip that there is a BOOK that covers this....my hearing isn't great and replay didn't help any.

Claudia - Jul 14, 2008 - 11:09 PM
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I watched it today on BBCIPlayer: the last two episodes: I enjoyed it thoroughly. Smile

britstarfan - Jul 15, 2008 - 11:22 AM
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Spock1 wrote:

If you are watching the episodes in sequence the order is

Turn Left ( episode 11)
The Stolen Earth ( episode 12 part 1)
Journeys End ( episode 13 part 2)

The clip was the conclusion of "Journeys End" so you should only be 3 episodes behind.

The book documents the many starships and spacestations that the Doctor and his companions have encountered on their travels. Doctor Who historian Justin Richards documents the amazing story of Earth's ventures into space, examines the many alien fleets who have paid Earth a visit, and explores the other starships and spacestations that the Doctor has encountered on his many travels.

So my guess is it's just really a reference book.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Star ... amp;sr=8-1

britstarfan - Jul 15, 2008 - 11:45 AM
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Claudia wrote:

I watched it today on BBCIPlayer: the last two episodes: I enjoyed it thoroughly. Smile

I think the whole series 4, is being repeated on BBC3 every night, for the next couple of weeks .They showed "Partners in Crime" last night,tonight it's " Fires of Pompeii".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programme ... 2008/07/15

britstarfan - Jul 15, 2008 - 12:20 PM
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Spock1 wrote:

Hope he does. Very Happy

For anyone that has the Destiny Of The Daleks DVD these are some excellent Tom Baker " bonus features"

Australian Doctor Who Prime Computer Ads 1980's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Zf8oKu ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY6TdIMu ... re=related

"clever clever Prime" and to think those computers were cutting edge, tec ' all those years ago, look at the size of them. Wink

UNIT Recruitment Film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlsfmuid ... re=related

Here's some ads some of which are extras on various Dr Who DVDs.

Doctor Who Tom Baker New Zealand commercial #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZROVe66 ... re=related

Doctor Who Tom Baker New Zealand commercial #3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Pycl_A ... re=related

and Unaired Jon Perwee Nz telecom adverts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EejQ8KpI ... re=related

David Tennant -Peter Davison Children In Need special 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfL-ZjLL-Tg