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William Shatner Main Discussion - ShatnerVision comes to an end...for now

Paul - Sep 11, 2007 - 09:04 PM
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Just a quick note to say that the ShatnerVision project comes to an end this Saturday. I'm sure it will be back in some form or another on another website. The ShatnerVision channel on LiveVideo will remain up for at least a while.

Cuzsis - Sep 11, 2007 - 09:07 PM
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Awww.....

Thanks Paul and Crew! (and especially Bill!), it's been a fun ride!!! Very Happy

littlestar - Sep 11, 2007 - 09:39 PM
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OH MAN!!!!

That is a Complete BUMMER !!!!

Is it funds? Sad

DianaG - Sep 11, 2007 - 10:18 PM
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That is too bad!

It was fun while it lasted!

DianaG

Joe - Sep 11, 2007 - 11:31 PM
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They were really well done.
Why not host the collection from this site in one form or another?
At the very least have them accessible from a single sticky thread, with some lead in info for each.

greenchick - Sep 11, 2007 - 11:52 PM
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What a shame, they were fantastic..any reason?

daisydownunder - Sep 12, 2007 - 12:53 AM
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Bummer I loved commenting over there.

you run out of moments! or has Bill got too busy.

and the video actually let us get closer to Bill.

Daisy Smile

Paul - Sep 12, 2007 - 01:18 AM
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I'm sure it will come back on another site at some point - it's too unique and different not to be picked up elsewhere.

It's not for lack of Bill or myself wanting it to continue. Live Video made the decision to pull the plug.

If you want you can contact Live Video and tell them how disappointed you are.

-Paul

DianaG - Sep 12, 2007 - 01:22 AM
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Thank you Paul for letting us know what had happened.

I hope it does come back some where and be as good.

DianaG

daisydownunder - Sep 12, 2007 - 02:11 AM
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Paul wrote:

Cant we incorporate it on to this site.

Why on earth would they pull the plug on such a popular member .

Well I for one hope we get it back, I just loved the chats with Lisabeth.

Daisy Smile

Harry_Mudd - Sep 12, 2007 - 03:52 AM
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Obvious question for a computer boffin like you, Paul, but why don't you use YouTube? Confused

rubypearl - Sep 12, 2007 - 06:43 AM
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OH NO!

Say it ain't so!

HUH!! It was kinda my inference that both LiveVideo & ShatnerVision originated about the same point in time & LiveVideo was hoping to draw upon the ShatnerVision popularity to make a go of it for themselves. I'm probably mistaken, I guess, on this point tho....

Wonder why they'd "pull the plug?" ShatnerVision was good PR for LiveVideo, I would have imagined.

HUH!!!

Cuzsis - Sep 12, 2007 - 08:31 AM
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Oh! I thought Bill or you were just getting busy or something....argh! Lemme try that one again. Embarassed

Ahem!

Bill's schedule was getting too full, and you had your own stuff you had to get done.

Yeah! What about YouTube??? Very Happy

DOC - Sep 12, 2007 - 12:07 PM
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Sorry to hear that Paul. I must admit, I did not care for that medium (live video) due to all the CCC (crazy, cory crap) stuff that people posted on Bills spot. Just implement the videos here. Idea

~Doc

Burkhardfan - Sep 12, 2007 - 02:16 PM
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IT WAS SO GREAT!!!!
THANKS BILL, PAUL AND LIZ!!! Very Happy

rubypearl - Sep 12, 2007 - 05:48 PM
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Burkhardfan wrote:

IT WAS SO GREAT!!!!
THANKS BILL, PAUL AND LIZ!!! Very Happy

I certainly second that thought!

Debb - Sep 12, 2007 - 07:38 PM
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Dear Paul,

Shatner vision was a huge highlight from fandom perspective. It was certainly a treat for all of us who admire Mr. Shatner's unbridled passion for life and his seemingly bottomless pit of energy.

I would think that Dana over at boston_legal.org would be delighted to host the Shatnervision clips. Although I can't speak for her directly, I know that she appreciates very much input from the members at her website and particularly anything to do with cast off the set.

Keep up the phenomenal job your doing - I for one have a deep appreciation for everything you provide to us.

virtually, yours,

Debb

rubypearl - Sep 12, 2007 - 11:24 PM
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Guess that means, then, that ShatnerVision won't be on the red carpet at the Emmies Sunday night....or backstage after Bill S & James S. wins.

Good point Debb....THE Boston Legal site......now there's a thought, aye?

Paul - Sep 13, 2007 - 12:51 AM
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One of the more vocal Star Trek fans on Live Video has started a campaign to save ShatnerVision.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/D193D11B ... cid=358078

It worked for Star Trek...maybe it will work for ShatnerVision???

-P

daisydownunder - Sep 13, 2007 - 01:07 AM
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Paul wrote:

OK Sent my email.

Save TOS

Save The Star

Save Shatner Vision:) Smile

It is the least I could do for the captain of the Enterprise

Daisy Smile

littlestar - Sep 13, 2007 - 01:27 AM
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DONE

SAVE SHATNERVISION !!!!!
SAVE THE WORLD !!!!!

Mirizor - Sep 13, 2007 - 03:55 AM
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Done.

SAVE SHATNERVISION

TRexx - Sep 13, 2007 - 04:58 AM
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"Save ShatnerVision" banners, cropped from Victor1st's masthead...

http://www.livevideo.com/video/Victor1s ... sion-.aspx

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alanaldafan11 - Sep 13, 2007 - 06:42 AM
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Put the banner up on my myspace.

-Caitlin

conny - Sep 13, 2007 - 10:09 AM
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Hi,

that are really BAD news. I can’t understand the decision of Live Video. ShatnerVision is one of the best sides they have and without it and maybe 10 other sides I never have any reason to visit Live Video.

Thanks Paul, Bill and Liz! I hope you will be back soon – on another side that appreciates ShatnerVision more than Live Video does it.

Conny

summerrose - Sep 13, 2007 - 12:17 PM
Post subject: LiveVideo.com Dropping ShatnerVision Video Website

Paul wrote:

I did. I contacted LiveVideo. I was very polite. I kept a copy of the note I sent them if anyone wants to see it to get some inspiration and do a better job of it.

I thought perhaps Mr. Shatner himself was ready to move on to something else until I read this post by Paul (Hi, Paul!).

The only thing LiveVideo had going for it besides ShatnerVision was its exemplary sound management; wonderful audio capability! Far superior to YouTube. When and if you establish ShatnerVision somewhere else [more hospitable] that might be something to add to the server 'decision' list.

or perhaps Mr. Shatner will call in a few notes and build his OWN video server with extraordinary audio and video.

I don't suppose at this point it's necessary to say I have enjoyed every one of ShatnerVision's videos, and thank you so much for wishing me a happy birthday this year, on LiveVideo. I pulled a screenshot. I'll never forget it and it was very kind of you!

Summerrose and her Black Cat Sam

Tina - Sep 13, 2007 - 01:15 PM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Why can't you just post it on youtube and broadcast it here?

Hart - Sep 13, 2007 - 01:54 PM
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Bummer !! Watching the videos was the only reason I went and got Broadband earlier this year !!

Well, I'll just have to watch them all again before they finish, to get a "Shatner" fix for the weekend Wink

Hart

kirkscutie11728 - Sep 13, 2007 - 02:32 PM
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[color=blue]NO!

Originally SV was the only reason I came to this site
SAVE SHATNERVISION !!

Bill is quite a pioneer of live video messaging - he was the first actor to do it and I think it is unfair to cut him off

SMB - Sep 13, 2007 - 02:47 PM
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OH Wow!!!! Does that mean that our own Live Vision accounts will be taken away as well? That means all of the wonderful videos will be lost!

Crying or Very sad

arg!@@##$% Evil or Very Mad

stomp, stomp, temper tantrum...... Idea

Well!!!! This is a great opportunity to put our collective heads together and create our own Live Vision program.

How bout it Paul!? Pretty please Very Happy

Mirizor - Sep 13, 2007 - 02:53 PM
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SMB wrote:

OH Wow!!!! Does that mean that our own Live Vision accounts will be taken away as well? That means all of the wonderful videos will be lost!

Crying or Very sad

arg!@@##$% Evil or Very Mad

stomp, stomp, temper tantrum...... Idea

Well!!!! This is a great opportunity to put our collective heads together and create our own Live Vision program.

How bout it Paul!? Pretty please Very Happy

No Sue, LiveVideo is planning to pull the plug on Shatnervision.

SMB - Sep 13, 2007 - 04:10 PM
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Mirizor wrote:

SMB wrote:

OH Wow!!!! Does that mean that our own Live Vision accounts will be taken away as well? That means all of the wonderful videos will be lost!

Crying or Very sad

arg!@@##$% Evil or Very Mad

stomp, stomp, temper tantrum...... Idea

Well!!!! This is a great opportunity to put our collective heads together and create our own Live Vision program.

How bout it Paul!? Pretty please Very Happy

No Sue, LiveVideo is planning to pull the plug on Shatnervision.

Perhaps we should threaten to send Vito over to flush them if they try pulling the plug. Cool

alanaldafan11 - Sep 13, 2007 - 04:51 PM
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Could always use MySpace video. Some bands, including the Dave Matthews Band, use myspace video to host their on tour stuff. I think that since he already has a myspace account, he could just upload them there?

-Caitlin

littlestar - Sep 13, 2007 - 05:54 PM
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Can we divide the Vids and keep them in our individual accounts...RENAMED or RELABLED...so they won't be Lost !!!!

Damn...just as Jami finally got the Commercial Rolling Eyes

Paul - Sep 13, 2007 - 06:33 PM
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I don't think the videos we've done, to date, will necessarily go away.

littlestar - Sep 13, 2007 - 07:05 PM
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Can we get reassurance on that?

If not , we need to work fast to save the ARCHIVES....

Don't want to lose it all, like the Shatner Files....

Let us know ASAP...'K ?

Victor1st - Sep 13, 2007 - 07:26 PM
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Just thought i would pop in and thank the folks who have joined the campaign on LiveVideo.

I'm one of the more vocal members of the site and i'm guessing that LiveVideo was probably expecting some kind of video from me about the closure of the ShatnerVision channel, it all depends on the reavtion of the LiveVideo community though and wether there will be neough voices to force LV to keep the channel open.

As for Video Sharing sites...if the worse comes to the worse and the server hosting williamshatner.com can handle it, you can always make your own video sharing site....screw LiveVideo and Youtube.

STG (the star trek gaming site i run) has our own version of YouTube, its all done on our server...

http://www.startrek-gamers.com/videos

SMB - Sep 13, 2007 - 08:21 PM
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I do have them all saved on my Video account. Hope they stay there.

You would think they would have at least given us through the end of the year. I have the very first message from Bill up to the latest.

That would have made for an interesting video dvd. We could have raised some money for charity.

littlestar - Sep 13, 2007 - 08:35 PM
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HI VICTOR !!!! Hope you stick around !!!!

Who ARE all these people who want to be my Friend on LV? Wink

littlestar - Sep 13, 2007 - 09:06 PM
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WHAT?...BLASPHEMY !!!!

Did Bill ask for a penny?

Check This

Mirizor - Sep 13, 2007 - 09:24 PM
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littlestar wrote:

WHAT?...BLASPHEMY !!!!

Did Bill ask for a penny?

Check This

Methinks this fellow is talking out of his buttcheeks.

Btw, I also took him off my friends list.

angel - Sep 13, 2007 - 11:23 PM
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What's he saying? I can't hear it. Whatever it is, it sure must be bad.

Cat - Sep 14, 2007 - 12:42 AM
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angel wrote:

What's he saying? I can't hear it. Whatever it is, it sure must be bad.

Well...... he uses several "colorful metaphors"....... and I strongly suspect what he is smoking isn't tobacco.......

He basically says that it was Bill's decision to leave LiveVideo because he isn't getting paid. Bizarre guy....... Shocked

Cat - Sep 14, 2007 - 12:43 AM
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Paul wrote:

I don't think the videos we've done, to date, will necessarily go away.

I hope not. Sad

SMB - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:05 AM
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Paul,

Was a specific reason given for pulling the plug on Shatner Vision? I mean, did we violate any rules or do something wrong?

I wouldn't mind a bit if the Shatner Vision simply cut back on videos. We don't necessarily need one every single day.

All I can say is: NUTS A BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

angel - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:22 AM
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Cat wrote:

angel wrote:

What's he saying? I can't hear it. Whatever it is, it sure must be bad.

Thanks, Cat...hmmm...sounds like a bunch of bullhooee from a prize a-hole. Rolling Eyes

krlina - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:45 AM
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My computer was down for awhile, and couldn't comment here, but have to say that I joined LiveVideo ONLY because of ShatnerVision...Yes, there are some on the website that are CCC (per Doc) but not unusual, they seem to be everywhere. Most LiveVidians, because of the latest news, are posting videos like crazy to KEEP ShatnerVision. And Victor 1st has taken 'hit's' before, but is a trekkie thru and thru from what I've gathered, and has been extremely helpful to many on LiveVideo offering help and knowledge when asked (me included).

For LiveVideo's information, if ShatnerVision is let go, how many others will also leave???

Here is another longer video by Victor 1st, which may explain some more:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/Victor1s ... ervis.aspx

daisydownunder - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:48 AM
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Thats wierd because the video I watch he briefly mentions Shatner Vision giving some award to this livevideo member.

No Bad language no reference to Bill wanting money

I must have a different video:) Smile

Paul what reason was given for the pulling the plug. they normally warn you by email of infringement. everthing Bill had on there was his own.

and he had permission for the priceline adverts????

Daisy Smile

Cat - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:49 AM
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krlina wrote:

Caroline, did you think that the comments were to Victor? The comments were actually related to a video from someone named Kyhell. His choice of language and insinuations were the reason for the comments above. None of the comments were about Victor.

I did listen to part of Victor's video..... what a dreamy voice.... Very Happy

Cat - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:51 AM
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daisydownunder wrote:

Daisy

Daisy, try this link: http://www.livevideo.com/video/707D8130 ... cid=358763

This was the video I was referring to.

angel - Sep 14, 2007 - 02:27 AM
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Cat wrote:

krlina wrote:

Crap! Now I'm missing out on a dreamy voice? D'oh! Laughing

I've just got to get the sound back in the old 'puter. Might crash it trying to, but it'll be worth it. I missed so much of the ShatnerLive because of the damned sound going out. And now I'm not going to be seeing any of it. I sure thought I had plenty of time to get my computer fixed and watch the videos at my leisure..with a huge block of Hershey's w/ almonds. Guess not. Sad

Paul - Sep 14, 2007 - 03:35 AM
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littlestar wrote:

Can we get reassurance on that?

If not , we need to work fast to save the ARCHIVES....

Don't want to lose it all, like the Shatner Files....

Let us know ASAP...'K ?

LOL! I have the ShatnerVision videos safe, sound and backed up. The ShatnerFiles are there it's just as I said...it's like a high rise building without walls, all the layers are one on top of another in a hopeless pile that try as I have I have not been successful in restoring.

But all hope is not lost...for you can still get them and possibly put them back into some semblance of order.

You just need to use the wayback machine and return to earlier this year.

daisydownunder - Sep 14, 2007 - 04:14 AM
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Cat wrote:

daisydownunder wrote:

Daisy

Daisy, try this link: http://www.livevideo.com/video/707D8130 ... cid=358763

This was the video I was referring to.

Thanks!! yes I watched it, and I was quite confused and I wondered why I Bill needed a contract when it is free and no contract for the rest of us.

Daisy Smile

krlina - Sep 14, 2007 - 05:00 AM
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Cat wrote:

krlina wrote:

Cat, you are getting two links confused...here is the one from Kyhell that Littlestar mentioned, and it most definitely mentions Victor (listen to it all the way through): http://www.livevideo.com/kyhell

And for Daisy, again I post this longer link from Victor which explains that some were under contract with LiveVideo..and one was ShatnerVision!

http://www.livevideo.com/video/Victor1s ... px[/quote]

daisydownunder - Sep 14, 2007 - 05:08 AM
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Thanks I have watched both videos now Smile

Daisy

DOC - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:57 PM
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Well..look on the bright side, maybe Bill/Liz will come back and Post again Wink

Gotta keep the fans satisfied Wink

~Doc

Mirizor - Sep 14, 2007 - 01:59 PM
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DOC wrote:

Well..look on the bright side, maybe Bill/Liz will come back and Post again Wink

Gotta keep the fans satisfied Wink

~Doc

Hey DOC, did you check out Paul's post above?

DOC - Sep 14, 2007 - 02:01 PM
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Mirizor wrote:

DOC wrote:

Well..look on the bright side, maybe Bill/Liz will come back and Post again Wink

Gotta keep the fans satisfied Wink

~Doc

Hey DOC, did you check out Paul's post above?

Regarding the "Shatner Files"? If so, I do not have the luxury now to repost the stuff (copy/paste) from 2006 and back.

~Doc

Mirizor - Sep 14, 2007 - 02:02 PM
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DOC wrote:

Mirizor wrote:

DOC wrote:

Well..look on the bright side, maybe Bill/Liz will come back and Post again Wink

Gotta keep the fans satisfied Wink

~Doc

Hey DOC, did you check out Paul's post above?

Regarding the "Shatner Files"? If so, I do not have the luxury now to repost the stuff (copy/paste) from 2006 and back.

~Doc

At least you know where they are.

DOC - Sep 14, 2007 - 02:06 PM
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Mirizor wrote:

DOC wrote:

Mirizor wrote:

DOC wrote:

Well..look on the bright side, maybe Bill/Liz will come back and Post again Wink

Gotta keep the fans satisfied Wink

~Doc

Hey DOC, did you check out Paul's post above?

Regarding the "Shatner Files"? If so, I do not have the luxury now to repost the stuff (copy/paste) from 2006 and back.

~Doc

At least you know where they are.

True. To be honest, I didn't feel that the majority really care for the post, just a handful I asumed did. If I get a chance, maybe I start it again or piggy back of Trexx post.

Thanks,

~Doc

rubypearl - Sep 14, 2007 - 04:29 PM
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DOC wrote:

To be honest, I didn't feel that the majority really care for the post, just a handful I asumed did. Thanks,

~Doc

WHAT??

It's ShatnerFiles.....it's the origin of concept of ShatnerVision....it's a necessity of life on www.williamshatner.com.

Anyway us peons can help to salvage it all? I'm good at cut & paste.

Is that all Paul has been able to salvage from ShatnerFiles, cause the link he posted certainly ain't even a fraction of it all?

On the subject of ShatnerVision....WOW!!
We're certainly all thrilled to have been able to view what you-all have taken the time & effort to share with us. VERY unique & insightful, needless to say. THANK YOU Bill S, Eliz, Liz, Paul & Co. Now that you've piqued our interest & got us all "hooked on ShatnerVision", we're
eagerly awaiting word on ShatnerVision..phase 2.

conny - Sep 14, 2007 - 05:20 PM
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Hi rubypearl,

I just found a copy of the Files on my PC. Doesn't know that I saved it. Very Happy

If it helps, I can try to send it to you.

Conny

rubypearl - Sep 14, 2007 - 05:49 PM
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conny wrote:

Hi rubypearl,

I just found a copy of the Files on my PC. Doesn't know that I saved it. Very Happy

If it helps, I can try to send it to you.

Conny

OMG!!! PLEASE do!

Now how'd you manage to save it on your computer? DAH!! I was saving links to stuff here as PM's to myself, but.......

conny - Sep 14, 2007 - 07:37 PM
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Hi,

I uploaded that what I have on my website:
http://www.medien44.de/PNphpBB2-printview-t-43-start-1005.phtml.htm

Hope it works.

Conny

littlestar - Sep 14, 2007 - 07:53 PM
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HOLY COW !!!!

Good JOB CONNY !!!!! Very Happy

rubypearl - Sep 15, 2007 - 01:30 AM
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WOW!!!! Conny, you're a lifesaver!! Looks like you've got EVERYTHING through Jan 3, 2007.

OK...from this, bet we can figure out what to do. Know I can repost most of the pics that I posted. They seem to have disappeared.

Thanks SO MUCH!!!!

Littlestar's right......HOLY COW!!!

OK...DOC....suggestions?

If the ShatnerFiles have resurfaced, can ShatnerVision be far behind?

rubypearl - Sep 15, 2007 - 05:46 AM
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OK...anyone else notice that on LiveVideo, there's no longer a countdown to the demise of ShatnerVision?

alanaldafan11 - Sep 15, 2007 - 05:52 AM
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rubypearl wrote:

OK...anyone else notice that on LiveVideo, there's no longer a countdown to the demise of ShatnerVision?

I was just about to ask about that... hmm... could our effort have done something?

-Caitlin

SMB - Sep 15, 2007 - 06:05 PM
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I noticed that some of the things have been taken off, like the Walter Reed Hospital banner. I wonder if that is what was causing all of the problems. Who knows!?

ShatnerVision is the only thing that I watch, besides what some of the BBS members create, like Daisy and others.

rubypearl - Sep 16, 2007 - 03:24 PM
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A fun video clip to wrap it all up on......for now.

Paul - Sep 16, 2007 - 06:30 PM
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rubypearl wrote:

A fun video clip to wrap it all up on......for now.

I thought it would be a fun way to end it. Smile

Still no word but my fingers are still crossed.

SMB - Sep 16, 2007 - 06:49 PM
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Well if push comes to shove and they do not all disapear, I have most of the ShatnerVision videos on my site. There may be one or two that I missed, but the greater majority of them are there.

If they pull the plug and it is ok with everyone, you are more than welcome to use my LiveVideo site. Heck, the only thing on there is ShatnerVision plus a few from BBS posters.

I may need some help in fixing it up as I am not that gifted when it comes to website designs.

Of course, Bill would be more than welcome to come visit all of us at our respective sites and post his videos. Very Happy

OK, Maybe that sounded a bit desparate. But as someone once said, "Desparate times calls for desparate measures."

teilanikirk - Sep 17, 2007 - 12:41 AM
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I can't believe that Livevideo is pulling the plug on Shatnervision. Shatnervision is the only reason that I opened a Livevideo account. Well, it has been fun while it lasted. I have really enjoyed watching all of the videos. Bill's enthusiasm for life is contagious. I loved hearing all of his wonderful stories and his philosophies on life. The interaction with Bill and Liz was priceless. Thank you so much Bill and Liz for sharing part of your lives with us. Paul, you did a wonderful job with Shatnervision. Let's all keep our fingers crossed. Maybe there is still a chance. Afterall, there are always possibilites.