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Post subject: Greetings from Hershey Pennsylvania!
Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 12:54 PM
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Here's a few pics taken over the past couple of days while seeing the sights in Hershey.
Check out the street lights...
The biggest chocolate factory in the world...
'Hershey Park'...
The home of 'Hershey Chocolate Company' founder Milton Hershey (1857-1945), minutes away from the factory he began building in 1903...
Tour trolley, complete with singing guides...
'Hershey's Chocolate World', which is 'ground zero' for touri$t Her$hey $wag...
'ZooAmerica'...
The Hershey museum (newly built just 3 years ago)...
The Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA) museum...
Overall, a great place to spend a fun couple of days. Genuinely friendly people, some terrific eating spots (TripAdvisor.com didn't steer us wrong) and a 'fix' for even the most demanding of chocolate lovers!
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 02:14 PM
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| Great pictures, Terry. The car museum looks especially cool. Reminds me a bit of the motorbike museum at Niagara. One of the best collections of bikes I've ever seen. |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 02:43 PM
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| BWW wrote: | | "...Great pictures, Terry. The car museum looks especially cool. Reminds me a bit of the motorbike museum at Niagara. One of the best collections of bikes I've ever seen..." |
My only disappointment - albeit, something that I was aware of before the trip - was that there are no longer public tours of the actual Hershey factory itself. I'm not sure if this is a result of our 'post-9-11 reality' ...perhaps someone here on the WSBBS knows?
No matter, if you ever find yourself within a day or two drive of Hershey with a weekend to spare, a visit is still well worth the time!
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 04:37 PM
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No more tour...because no more production in the factory....
HERSHEY Chocolate is not made in the USA anymore... SAD
Although I am glad it is made in MEXICO and not...CHINA |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 04:59 PM
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| littlestar wrote: | "...No more tour...because no more production in the factory....
HERSHEY Chocolate is not made in the USA anymore..." |
...that's hard to believe, seeing as the factory is still there and - judging by the traffic at shift change and the smell of chocolate wafting in the air - very much alive. |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 06:06 PM
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Looks like you saw everything there is to see! I like Hotel Hershey because it still looks likea 1930's art deco hotel.
They still make chocolate in Hershey, but at the new plant. I think they cut out tours of the original factory (apart from the private group tours) long ago because of safety reasons and the amount of visitors, but I'm not sure. I know Chocolate World has been there since the 70's and that's supposed to take the place of seeing the actual factory.
They did move some choco prodution to Mexico and I remember that caused an uproar, along with the trustees not following the final wishes of Milton Hershey with the orphan school.
Here's a link with a little info
http://www.gadling.com/2010/10/06/origi ... pennsylva/ |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 10:38 PM
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I would love to see that Hershey tour and get some candy at the Hershey store.....
Nice pics there and the car museum pics were great!
I also thought the Hershey's kisses street lamps were funny!
(I wouldn't mind having a candy kiss that big!)
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Posted: Jul 26, 2011 - 11:02 PM
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I remember some of the original tour through the actual plant. I guess I was 3 or 4, because I remember that my father was carried me through it. And from my childish perspective, it was overpoweringly loud, the chocolate smell incredibly strong, the place was huge (at least to me), so many people crammed into that space, and that our tour guide had to yell at us through a bull horn. I know I wasn't crying, but I remember being rather terrified of it all. Final impression was the rollers with all the chocolate coming off them. It looked like the scene from I Love Lucy, only 1000 times larger. At that very young age, I decided that I DID NOT want to be a factory worker. The reward for living through the tour was a candy bar. Then it was OK.
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 12:30 AM
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| i live about an hour outside hershey. I love it there! glad you had a good time in pa |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 01:15 AM
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| teclaydon wrote: | | littlestar wrote: | "...No more tour...because no more production in the factory....
HERSHEY Chocolate is not made in the USA anymore..." |
...that's hard to believe, seeing as the factory is still there and - judging by the traffic at shift change and the smell of chocolate wafting in the air - very much alive. |
...I just checked the fine print on the back of a Hershey's chocolate bar wrapper: "...Made in Hershey PA...".
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 02:30 AM
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I just bought a Hershey bar with Heath toffee bits (new to me, and I KILL for Heath bars)...
Just finished it, and reading the label to torture myself and it says:
"Mfg. in Mexico for Hershey Foods Corporation"
NOT ONLY is this chocolate bar made in MEXICO but it's made by a CONTRACTOR. Hershey doesn't even make it THEMSELVES, they pay somebody else to make it FOR them.
SO...I guess there is some still being made there in PA....they said they were closing that Factory too...Glad it's still open...but.... Guess California and some Southern areas are getting their stock...from Mexico.
Here's an article from when it started:
June 02, 2007
All-American Hershey's chocolate: made in Mexico
While we're on the topic of plants closing and moving to Mexico, last Thursday there was this story in the L.A. Times: "Hershey plant to kiss Oakdale goodbye." Hershey is closing the doors of its plant in Oakdale, California, moving all 575 jobs to Monterrey, Mexico. But it's not just this one plant:
The 113-year-old company has described the plant shutdown as part of a "global supply-chain transformation." Some 3,000 of Hershey's 13,000 workers will lose their jobs, including as many as 900 in the company's hometown of Hershey, Pa., where the streetlights are shaped like Kisses. By 2010, Hershey says, the moves will save shareholders as much as $190 million annually.
"The financials are compelling," Chief Executive Richard H. Lenny told a meeting of market analysts in February, saying labor costs in Mexico are 10% of those in the United States. Asked about the negative publicity that would come with the plant closures, he said the decisions were "gut-wrenchingly difficult — but in the best interests of the business."
The article mentions protesters and a Hershey employee who said, "Milton Hershey's ideal was stability for families, but there's none of that anymore. There's no more moral connection between business and working-class America." Sadly, the words of these outspoken folks will probably fall on deaf ears — as Oakdale's congressional representative, George Radanovich (R-Calif.), has a 100 percent anti-fair-trade voting record, having voted wrong on 15 out of 15 trade votes since taking office in 1995.
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and a Statement from HERSHEY Corp.
# Q. Does the company still make chocolate in Hershey?
A. Yes! Our history in the town goes back more than 100 years, and we are committed to continue making the world's best chocolate products in Hershey, Pennsylvania. In fact, the company is creating one of the world's largest, most advanced chocolate facilities right here in Hershey. This project represents a significant investment and will ensure that we continue to make HERSHEY'S Milk Chocolate Bars, HERSHEY'S KISSES Milk Chocolates, HERSHEY'S Syrup and REESE'S Peanut Butter Cups as well as a wide range of other products in Hershey, Pennsylvania. We also make about a million miles of TWIZZLERS Candies each year at our Lancaster facility, a few miles from Hershey. |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 12:47 PM
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I remember a time when there was a huge waiting list of people wanting to work for the Hershey company.
Anyways, Mr. Teclaydon, Where's our chocolate? You did say you were going to send all of us some right?  |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 01:18 PM
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| SMB wrote: | | "...Anyways, Mr. Teclaydon, Where's our chocolate?..." |
...I'm afraid that any chocolate shipped would have arrived in 'syrup form', given the 90F+ temps we had that weekend.
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 02:13 PM
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| teclaydon wrote: | | SMB wrote: | | "...Anyways, Mr. Teclaydon, Where's our chocolate?..." |
...I'm afraid that any chocolate shipped would have arrived in 'syrup form', given the 90F+ temps we had that weekend.
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 02:27 PM
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| teclaydon wrote: | | SMB wrote: | | "...Anyways, Mr. Teclaydon, Where's our chocolate?..." |
...I'm afraid that any chocolate shipped would have arrived in 'syrup form', given the 90F+ temps we had that weekend.
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The way the temps are going to be here today, I would of been scraping (or licking!) melted chocolate off the foil wrappers!
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 05:25 PM
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Thank You for another Photo Vacation... I can almost smell the chocolate...
Oh wait.. I am eating a Hershey's Kiss
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Posted: Jul 27, 2011 - 05:49 PM
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You Northerners are gonna have to "smuggle" us some of the REAL stuff  |
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Posted: Aug 02, 2011 - 05:00 PM
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| Nice photos. I was there as a child when you actually walked through the factory on scaffolds and saw the huge vats and everyone in the plant. Now the "disneyesque" ride gives you a tour. At one time we had relatives that lived in Hershey and they always referred to Mr. Hershey as Mr. Hershey as though he was a god. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 03:34 AM
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BAD NEWS FOR HERSHEY CORP
Welcome to America! It sounded like the perfect summer job. Four hundred students from China, Africa and eastern Europe would work in a Hershey’s chocolate packing plant in Palmyra, Pennsylvania, before using their earnings to travel the US and learn English.
It turned out to be not as sweet as they hoped.
Students Exploited By Hershey’s, Says Complaint
The National Guestworker Alliance filed a complaint Wednesday on behalf of 400 international students who had apparently paid $3,000 to $6,000 to participate in a U.S.-certified cultural exchange program. The complaint, sent to the U.S. Department of State, says the students were exploited by Hershey Co. and that the company takes unfair advantage of the program. The students also launched a protest at the plant.
Shifts, often at night, consisted of lifting dozens of heavy boxes, trying to control fast-moving production lines, they said.
“They don’t care if you are small, you don’t have the power, you didn’t eat – they just care about their production,” one of the students said.
From The Los Angeles Times:
The students, who hail from countries such as China, Turkey, Ukraine, Moldova, Mongolia, Ghana and Thailand, were recruited at their universities to participate in the U.S. State Department J-1 visa program, described on a U.S. State Department website as an Exchange Visitor Program. The program leads to a three-month visa that allows students to work in the United States while learning about American culture and improving their English skills.
The goal of the program, according to the State Department’s site, is to foster “global understanding through educational and cultural exchange.”
Instead, says a representative of the National Guestworker Alliance, students who wound up at the Hershey’s plant were living in “economic captivity,” forced to pay for mandatory company housing that left them with $40 to $140 a week for 40 hours of work.
Students Threatened With Deportation When They Complained
According to the complaint, when the students complained about the violations of U.S. law, “they were threatened with deportation and other long term immigration consequences to remain quiet about the violations.” |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 07:27 PM
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Why would Hershey's want to use foreign exchange students as cheap, manual labor? According to the National Guestworker Alliance, a group helping the students, it's about profit. Hershey's is laying off 500 American workers in the next year. The company's strategy is apparently paying off: Hershey's pocketed $130 million in just the last three months.
The foreign exchange students are asking Hershey to refund the thousands of dollars the students paid to come to America. And that's not all: The students also want Hershey's to convert their low-paying positions to living wage jobs for local residents in Pennsylvania.
Please sign the petition to Hershey's demanding the company refund the students' costs to come to America and give their jobs back to American workers who live near the warehouse.
http://www.change.org/petitions/hershey ... estworkers |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 07:43 PM
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| sure... and then the shareholders will jump ship if they can't get an 11% RoI. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 08:45 PM
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| It's SO SAD...Can't buy anymore HERSHEY products in this House... |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 09:57 PM
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The Hershey company's website is not secure right now. Someone hacked in and took some sensitive info. Until they get things under control, I won't go anywhere near their site.
Also, fyi, Disney World does some of the same practices with their foreign employees who work at Epcot. The American employees aren't much better off either. Won't go into details here because I don't want to get too far off topic. |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 - 10:23 PM
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Sue, the link is to CHANGE.ORG...Not Hershey site
It doesn't surprise me that other WELL KNOWN Industries do the same...and we Pride ourselves on not having Slave Labor or unfair practices...is it really that hard to fathom why so many Countries think we are awful and full of shite? |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2011 - 05:46 PM
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| littlestar wrote: | BAD NEWS FOR HERSHEY CORP
Welcome to America! It sounded like the perfect summer job. Four hundred students from China, Africa and eastern Europe would work in a Hershey’s chocolate packing plant in Palmyra, Pennsylvania, before using their earnings to travel the US and learn English.
It turned out to be not as sweet as they hoped.
Students Exploited By Hershey’s, Says Complaint
The National Guestworker Alliance filed a complaint Wednesday on behalf of 400 international students who had apparently paid $3,000 to $6,000 to participate in a U.S.-certified cultural exchange program. The complaint, sent to the U.S. Department of State, says the students were exploited by Hershey Co. and that the company takes unfair advantage of the program. The students also launched a protest at the plant.
Shifts, often at night, consisted of lifting dozens of heavy boxes, trying to control fast-moving production lines, they said.
“They don’t care if you are small, you don’t have the power, you didn’t eat – they just care about their production,” one of the students said.
From The Los Angeles Times:
The students, who hail from countries such as China, Turkey, Ukraine, Moldova, Mongolia, Ghana and Thailand, were recruited at their universities to participate in the U.S. State Department J-1 visa program, described on a U.S. State Department website as an Exchange Visitor Program. The program leads to a three-month visa that allows students to work in the United States while learning about American culture and improving their English skills.
The goal of the program, according to the State Department’s site, is to foster “global understanding through educational and cultural exchange.”
Instead, says a representative of the National Guestworker Alliance, students who wound up at the Hershey’s plant were living in “economic captivity,” forced to pay for mandatory company housing that left them with $40 to $140 a week for 40 hours of work.
Students Threatened With Deportation When They Complained
According to the complaint, when the students complained about the violations of U.S. law, “they were threatened with deportation and other long term immigration consequences to remain quiet about the violations.” |
Very similar to the earlier post about Hershey's being made in Mexico. True, but not completely accurate. Chocolate is still being manufactured near Hershey.
While this is yet another bad PR move for Hershey Corp, the above post never mentioned the subcontractor, Exel-SHS. Both Hershey AND (note the caps) Exel are to blame. Lest we forget to shine the light on the subcontractor AS WELL as Hershey Corp.
Now, onto the kids who got a bum deal. They can go home knowing in America you can speak out and not be SHOT, harrassed or beaten. They learned a great CIVICS (note, more caps!) lesson about our great nation outside the factory, by the way. Maybe they can apply that lesson learned whenTRULYconfronted with less democracy back home. This is the true "take-home" lesson, my fellow patriots.
So, here's another view of the situation. You can ask why people don't like our country or you can try to get something positive out of a bad situation. Did the kids willingly go into this job not knowing the wages or work conditions? They had a 40lb weight limit. In my job description, it's 75lbs on a regular basis, as with MOST warehouses. My grandfather and a LOT of my relatives worked in the coal mines, along with many grandparents of today's workers. The working conditions were MUCH worse. Hell, my mom worked for the Atlas Powder Co. working with blasting caps for the war during high school.
The glass can be half empty or half full. It's up to you how you'd like to spend your days.
Please keep in mind the coverage and the intent, ONCE AGAIN to further exploit these kids for the ultimate goal of having another union shop.
IF YOU REALLY CARE, FOLLOW THE KIDS IN THE AFTERMATH AND FOLLOW THE UNION MONEY.
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